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Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:15 am
by _Elphaba
A clever history of the land called Israel/Palestine/Canaan/the Levant.
This land is Mine! ETA: Sorry, the link above doesn't work because I can't figure out to name links in posts. This link should work:
http://blog.ninapaley.com/2012/10/01/this-land-is-mine/I would LOVE to see a version of this depicting the American continents as described in
The Book of Mormon.
Re: Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:30 am
by _Morley
Here:
This land is Mine!edit: Argh. Your edit beat my link, Elphaba.
Re: Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:34 am
by _lulu
I love it when the Mo Tabs go all pinko commie.
All the land is everybodies'.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCa6VvDJujI
Re: Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:46 am
by _Blixa
Nina Paley is da bomb. Her work is always spectacular.
Re: Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:06 am
by _Tarski
Blixa wrote:Nina Paley is da bomb. Her work is always spectacular.
Do I detect a hint of Robert Crumb in her style?
For example:
http://www.ninapaley.com/NinasAdventure ... ewAdv1.htm
Re: Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:41 am
by _bcspace
The land belongs to whomever is on it now and is willing and able to defend it.
Re: Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:11 pm
by _Chap
bcspace wrote:The land belongs to whomever is on it now and is willing and able to defend it.
So when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait with the intention of making it into an Iraqi province, he was clearly "on it", had fulfilled the 'willing to defend' condition by definition.
If he had succeeded in repelling coalition forces he would also have fulfilled the 'able to defend' condition. He would then according to bcspace have had a good moral title to Kuwait, whatever the wishes of the inhabitants.
Similarly when Hitler invaded Poland ... and so on.
Gottit.
Re: Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:15 pm
by _MCB
Yep, Chap. Like when the Europeans invaded the Americas, or the Mormons invaded Hancock County.
Re: Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:29 pm
by _The Erotic Apologist
Or like when conservative Christians invade the privacy of my bedroom by preaching that birth control is a sin, and that the expression of homosexual love is a sin. (Courtesy of the Complete and Utter Non Sequitur Department
)
Re: Whose Land is it Anyway?
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:39 pm
by _Chap
MCB wrote:Yep, Chap. Like when the Europeans invaded the Americas, or the Mormons invaded Hancock County.
My point was. of course that while unwinding history is a dangerous matter, it should surely be one of the aims of the diplomacy of responsible nations to cause it be generally agreed that the rule of "keep whatever you can grab" is no longer an acceptable way of settling territorial disputes.
After all, why should that not equally well apply to real estate? If a bunch of militant Episcopalians (I choose my example for maximum implausibility) can throw some Mormons out of their ward house and take it over for their own purposes, do they have moral title? If I can grab bcspace's car and manage to repel his attempts to get it back, is it mine by right? What about the dollars in his billfold? And so on.