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Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:54 pm
by _zeezrom
Ulysses asked that his shipmates bind him fast so as to protect him from chasing after the sirens. We refer to this event now as the Ulysses Pact. Similarly, the author of the first book of Nephi felt his character must also be tied down. Likely, the author felt vulnerable to his own inadequacies in etiquette around the ladies, particularly at balls and holiday festivities. The author felt that if he were exposed to "rude" dancing for too long, he would give in to his own rudeness. I feel this story portrays a Ulysses Pact made by the author of the Book of Mormon. It is a pact silently and secretly made to help remind him to avoid his weaknesses in social gatherings.

The criticism I lay at the feet of the author is this: You do not need to tie yourself down in order to avoid your temptations toward rudeness. You can learn to find that joy is not made by taking rudely. It comes more from sharing and expressing with compassion. Under the tight bands you restrain yourself with, you will begin to tarnish your vision. You will begin to feel that without forced restraint, you must give into selfishness.

Here are some depictions of Ulysses:
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Ulysses and the Sirens ~ John William Waterhouse 1891

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Ulysses and the Sirens by Herbert James Draper

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Mosaic of Ulysses tied to the mast of a ship to resist the songs of the Sirens, from Dougga, Bardo museum

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Archaic Greek Vase painting Sirens and Odysseus tied to the mast 340 BCE - Gresk vase med Odysseus og Sirens

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Odysseus and the Sirens. Intarsia 19th century. Museo Correale di Terranova, Sorrento.

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Claire Watson, flickr

Here are some depictions of Nephi for comparison:

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Lost source! Can someone help me find the artist name?

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Jeremy Winborg

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Unknown artist

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Helpmeet, oil on canvas, by K. Sean Sullivan, St. Cloud Ward, Orlando Florida South Stake

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Re: Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:56 pm
by _just me
That's pretty cool, zee.

I can't believe Nephi wears clothes that show nipple. Someone should alert his SP.

Re: Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:04 pm
by _Blixa
zeezrom wrote:Image
Unknown artist


That one looks like an illustration of some kind of modern Book of Mormon reenactor. I don't think Nephi would have had a regulation "elder" haircut. The clothes also look like modern makeshift: denim, cotton chamois, etc.

Re: Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:06 pm
by _just me
Blixa wrote:
That one looks like an illustration of some kind of modern Book of Mormon reenactor. I don't think Nephi would have had a regulation "elder" haircut. The clothes also look like modern makeshift: denim, cotton chamois, etc.


I thought the same thing! Had to have been done fairly recently.

Re: Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:08 pm
by _zeezrom
I love the Ulysses done by John William Waterhouse. So awesome. The beard, the hat, the tunic. All of it!

Re: Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:42 pm
by _just me
zeezrom wrote:I love the Ulysses done by John William Waterhouse. So awesome. The beard, the hat, the tunic. All of it!


I like the Draper.

Re: Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:28 am
by _moksha
just me wrote:
Blixa wrote:
That one looks like an illustration of some kind of modern Book of Mormon reenactor. I don't think Nephi would have had a regulation "elder" haircut. The clothes also look like modern makeshift: denim, cotton chamois, etc.


I thought the same thing! Had to have been done fairly recently.


Had this painting been authentic, the artist would have rendered Nephi's haircut and clothing in the 19th Century manner.

Re: Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:34 am
by _ludwigm
just me wrote:That's pretty cool, zee.

I can't believe Nephi wears clothes that show nipple. Someone should alert his SP.
And someone should alert Shades.

Nipples (and the uncircumsized unpronounceable of Michelangelo's David) caused my fate...

Re: Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:33 pm
by _zeezrom
Wait. There is a David with foreskin?!

Re: Nephi and his sirens

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:41 pm
by _Morley
zeezrom wrote:Wait. There is a David with foreskin?!



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