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liz3564 wrote:With the election featuring a Mormon running for President, I thought this might be an interesting discussion.

Here is some information from Sandra Tanner's site. Before the TBM's go crazy over my quoting Ms. Tanner, let me just say that she actually did a pretty decent job of summarizing both sides of the issue.

http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/whi ... ophecy.htm

Fence Sitter wrote:

liz3564 wrote:With the election featuring a Mormon running for President, I thought this might be an interesting discussion.

Here is some information from Sandra Tanner's site. Before the TBM's go crazy over my quoting Ms. Tanner, let me just say that she actually did a pretty decent job of summarizing both sides of the issue.

http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/whi ... ophecy.htm

I don't mean to derail but we don't seem to have any TBM's left here who post on any sort of regular basis, especially in this forum. I am sure I'll be accused of the "no True Scotsman" fallacy, but what defenders we have seem to be mostly trolling and their beliefs and actions do not resemble any TBMs I know.

Hades wrote:I heard about this prophecy growing up in the church in the 70's and 80's. It was brought up in Sunday School and Priesthood meetings.

It was during the Cold War, so most people thought the commies would get us. Then the priesthood would save us and resurrect the constitution. Or maybe the priesthood would be the last hope to fight off the commies after everyone else failed.

Paloma wrote:

Hades wrote:I heard about this prophecy growing up in the church in the 70's and 80's. It was brought up in Sunday School and Priesthood meetings.

It was during the Cold War, so most people thought the commies would get us. Then the priesthood would save us and resurrect the constitution. Or maybe the priesthood would be the last hope to fight off the commies after everyone else failed.

Is this why Romney pegged the Russians as United States "enemy #1"??? (re the part that I bolded above)

Fence Sitter wrote:Besides McConkie, who rejects it, have there been any General Authorities who have referenced the prophecy is the last 46 years?

"God’s Hand in the Founding of America" by L. Tom Perry, New Era, July 1976

Our commitment to America has been testified to by many, but I will point out to you special witnesses who have indicated our responsibilities to this land.

First from Brigham Young, second president of the Church: “Will the Constitution be destroyed? No: it will be held inviolate by this people; and, as Joseph Smith said, ‘The time will come when the destiny of this nation will hang upon a single thread. At that critical juncture, this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction.’ It will be so.” (Journal of Discourses, 7:15.)

Now another witness, John Taylor, third president of the Church: “When the people shall have torn to shreds the Constitution of the United States, the elders of Israel will be found holding it up to the nations of the earth, and proclaiming liberty and equal rights to all men, and extending the hand of fellowship to the oppressed of all nations.” (The Gospel Kingdom, Deseret Book Co., 1943, p. 219.) This is part of the program.

A final witness is from George Q. Cannon, former member of the First Presidency, who said that “the day will come when the Constitution and free government under it will be sustained and preserved by this people.” (JD, 23:104.)

Now, I declare to you that if we are not in the beginning stages of the fulfillment of this prophecy, we are at least in the stages where we are preparing for its fulfillment.