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You chose to be a Girl, So SUCK IT UP (link)
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:39 pm
by _The Mighty Builder
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=22665843&nid=14 ... featured-3The data shows that, on average, for every dollar a Utah man makes
his female counterpart makes 55 cents. It's a huge gap, but at least one expert says most of that
45-cent difference is by choice.
Susan Madsen, director of the Utah Women and Education Initiative, told KSL News Utah's the choice in wage begins as early as college.
Re: You chose to be a Girl, So SUCK IT UP (link)
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:17 pm
by _bcspace
It's also impossible to compare companies and say well, this woman in this company makes such and such and this woman and that company makes such and such and rationally conclude there is a disparity. Within a company one can compare same or similar positions, but then one has to account not only for work required, but actual production as well. For example, a man in the same position may currently be out producing a woman. The reverse can happen obviously but one certainly wouldn't conclude the man is being discriminated against.
Re: You chose to be a Girl, So SUCK IT UP (link)
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:26 pm
by _sock puppet
bcspace wrote:It's also impossible to compare companies and say well, this woman in this company makes such and such and this woman and that company makes such and such and rationally conclude there is a disparity. Within a company one can compare same or similar positions, but then one has to account not only for work required, but actual production as well. For example, a man in the same position may currently be out producing a woman. The reverse can happen obviously but one certainly wouldn't conclude the man is being discriminated against.
That's why the more broad based the data from which the conclusion is drawn, the more reliable that conclusion. This is not simply comparing one type of position in one company. The data is state-wide, and then comparing women's earnings from state to state. Women in Utah earn less than in any other state. Utah is where LDS is the strongest. Capice?
Re: You chose to be a Girl, So SUCK IT UP (link)
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:59 pm
by _just me
Women pay a high price for motherhood. Mothers make less than any other demographic.
Re: You chose to be a Girl, So SUCK IT UP (link)
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:11 pm
by _Drifting
Let's be honest, women are more unreliable as employee's than men are...
Men don't go off for a year to have a baby.
Men don't get all sharp and irritable every four weeks or so.
Men aren't prone to suing you if you say their bum looks nice.
Men don't have to be home early to make the dinner.
Men have the Priesthood authority and so are more likely to make good decisions.
Men don't have to cover their faces when praying.
Men can pee standing up and so don't need 100% cubicle style toilets.
Men don't need lengthy lunch breaks for chatting or hair appointments.
Men already have all the rights and so don't need to march; canvas; rally; petition or whinge.
Men don't have 'wardrobe malfunctions' and so spend more time actually working.
When men talk they reach a decision rather than just feel better.
My wife wants to know why I'm laughing...I have to go...
Re: You chose to be a Girl, So SUCK IT UP (link)
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:51 pm
by _madeleine
Drifting wrote:Let's be honest, women are more unreliable as employee's than men are...
Men don't go off for a year to have a baby.
Women take care of all the babies, including their husbands.
Men don't get all sharp and irritable every four weeks or so.
Women don't get all sharp and irritable every time their football team loses.
Men aren't prone to suing you if you say their bum looks nice.
Women are looking at your bum, but are too polite to say what they are thinking (fatty).
Men don't have to be home early to make the dinner.
Women know how to multitask better, and are cooking your dinner, listening to you whine about your hard day at work, taking care of the children, and planning tomorrow's 8AM meeting...all while you're wondering why it is that lunch that day has given you gas.
Men have the Priesthood authority and so are more likely to make good decisions.
Women are confident in their own abilities.
Men don't have to cover their faces when praying.
Maybe they should.
Men can pee standing up and so don't need 100% cubicle style toilets.
Men take 100% longer in their cubicle style toilets.
Men don't need lengthy lunch breaks for chatting or hair appointments.
Men don't need lengthy lunch breaks since they already spent the first two hours of work, porn surfing, while their female secretary prepared everything they need for the afternoon, at a 1/3 the wage.
Men already have all the rights and so don't need to march; canvas; rally; petition or whinge.
Still porn surfing.
Men don't have 'wardrobe malfunctions' and so spend more time actually working.
XYZ
When men talk they reach a decision rather than just feel better.
After calling his wife and getting her approval.
My wife wants to know why I'm laughing...I have to go...
I crack myself up too.