Young Earth Creationism in the LDS Church
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:28 pm
Changed the Thread Title to better indicate the hoped-for direction of this thread and to make it somewhat parallel with the TBM = YEC? thread in the Celestial Forum. This thread was started as an opportunity for Little Nipper to show us what he's really got.
Hopefully other TBMs, especially those who consider themselves YEC, or who believe that they can explain the stark contradictions between the science that supports evolution and the creation myth in the LDS Standard Works, will participate in this thread or the TBM = YEC? thread.
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On a long Global Flood Thread in the Celestial Forum, Little Nipper continues to defend his literalist view and Biblical Creationism as best he can.
A recent exchange with LN on that thread prompted this OP. I know that there have been any number Bible vs Science threads on MDB – but this one will have pictures.
Concerning YEC, we find the following on Conservapedia:
So, for those YEC believers on the board (you know who you are), here is your chance to demonstrate that YEC is the best explanation for data from the science of geology.
To make this relevant to the Bible and the Book of Mormon, I have chosen to use geological data from the Arabian Peninsula, and specifically from the wilderness in which the LDS GA’s tell us that the Nephites would have roamed (had they actually existed), before leaving for the new world.
The YEC crowd claims that the Earth was created by magic about 6,000 years ago. In Joseph Smith’s story, the Nephites left from a point that an inspired General Authority of the Church identified as the coast of Oman approximately 2,600 years ago.
So between the Biblical time of the creation of the Earth 6,000 years ago and the departure of the Nephites for the New World from Oman 2,600 years ago, the YECs have a mere 3,400 years to squeeze in approximately 800 million years of events from geological record of the Arabian Peninsula.
On this thread, I will make a number of posts describing geological events on the Arabian Peninsula that are clearly shown in the geological record. Little Nipper and the YECs are invited to explain these events using Biblical creationism.
Let’s start with two long term glaciations (ice ages) during which the glaciers left deep striations in bedrock with intervening strata from more than 100 million years.
What the image below shows is the striations made in the bedrock (pavement) by rocks carried by glaciers as they slowly grind their way over the underlying material. These same striations can be observed in the bedrock under modern glaciers in Iceland and elsewhere.
There is no mention in the Bible of glaciers in the Arabic Peninsula / Red Sea area. Surely the YECs on the board can explain why this is.
Other types of events will be described, with images including subsea volcanic eruptions, millions of years worth of reef building, formation of oil and gas at great depth, formation and bedding of coal from ancient forests, massive uplift and folding processes, and those pesky marine fossils at 6,000 above sea level that I posted earlier this year.
These will be discussed, with images on this thread showing showing the the Arabic Peninsula has been around as an identifiable landmass for at least 800 million years.
YECs should enjoy explaining how biblical creationism accounts for these geological events.
Hopefully other TBMs, especially those who consider themselves YEC, or who believe that they can explain the stark contradictions between the science that supports evolution and the creation myth in the LDS Standard Works, will participate in this thread or the TBM = YEC? thread.
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On a long Global Flood Thread in the Celestial Forum, Little Nipper continues to defend his literalist view and Biblical Creationism as best he can.
A recent exchange with LN on that thread prompted this OP. I know that there have been any number Bible vs Science threads on MDB – but this one will have pictures.
Concerning YEC, we find the following on Conservapedia:
Young Earth Creationism, sometimes abbreviated YEC, is a form of creationism which holds that the earth and the universe are approximately 6,000 years old.
Young earth creationists hold that both creation and the evolutionary position are at root tied to worldviews, and because they are both claims about historical (or prehistorical) events, they depend on untestable assumptions. At the same time, young earth creation scientists argue that the young universe view is the explanation that best fits the evidence.
So, for those YEC believers on the board (you know who you are), here is your chance to demonstrate that YEC is the best explanation for data from the science of geology.
To make this relevant to the Bible and the Book of Mormon, I have chosen to use geological data from the Arabian Peninsula, and specifically from the wilderness in which the LDS GA’s tell us that the Nephites would have roamed (had they actually existed), before leaving for the new world.
The YEC crowd claims that the Earth was created by magic about 6,000 years ago. In Joseph Smith’s story, the Nephites left from a point that an inspired General Authority of the Church identified as the coast of Oman approximately 2,600 years ago.
So between the Biblical time of the creation of the Earth 6,000 years ago and the departure of the Nephites for the New World from Oman 2,600 years ago, the YECs have a mere 3,400 years to squeeze in approximately 800 million years of events from geological record of the Arabian Peninsula.
On this thread, I will make a number of posts describing geological events on the Arabian Peninsula that are clearly shown in the geological record. Little Nipper and the YECs are invited to explain these events using Biblical creationism.
Let’s start with two long term glaciations (ice ages) during which the glaciers left deep striations in bedrock with intervening strata from more than 100 million years.
What the image below shows is the striations made in the bedrock (pavement) by rocks carried by glaciers as they slowly grind their way over the underlying material. These same striations can be observed in the bedrock under modern glaciers in Iceland and elsewhere.
There is no mention in the Bible of glaciers in the Arabic Peninsula / Red Sea area. Surely the YECs on the board can explain why this is.
Other types of events will be described, with images including subsea volcanic eruptions, millions of years worth of reef building, formation of oil and gas at great depth, formation and bedding of coal from ancient forests, massive uplift and folding processes, and those pesky marine fossils at 6,000 above sea level that I posted earlier this year.
These will be discussed, with images on this thread showing showing the the Arabic Peninsula has been around as an identifiable landmass for at least 800 million years.
YECs should enjoy explaining how biblical creationism accounts for these geological events.
