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The First Vision Variant
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:46 am
by _zeezrom
I wonder how Mormonism might be different today had Heavenly Father visited the farm boy with his wife instead of with his son. In what ways do you think it would be different today?
This image depicts St. Joan of Arc being visited by heavenly angels but it reminds of how things could have been with Joseph Smith.
Re: The First Vision Variant
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:38 am
by _moksha
Maid of Orléans, meet the young Master of Palmyra.
You don't suppost Jeanne d'Arc returned with a flaming sword, do you?
Re: The First Vision Variant
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:46 am
by _Quasimodo
zeezrom wrote:I wonder how Mormonism might be different today had Heavenly Father visited the farm boy with his wife instead of with his son. In what ways do you think it would be different today?
This image depicts St. Joan of Arc being visited by heavenly angels but it reminds of how things could have been with Joseph Smith.
Beautiful painting. I can't help noticing the very heavy angelwear of the young fellow and how totally unimpressed the cows are.
It reminds me of how bad things turned out for little Joan. It also reminds me of how bad things turned out for little Joe.
Maybe it's best not to have visitations at all.
Re: The First Vision Variant
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:42 am
by _zeezrom
I love reading replies on this board.
Re: The First Vision Variant
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:26 am
by _ludwigm
zeezrom wrote:I love reading replies on this board.
... pictures ...
Re: The First Vision Variant
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:16 am
by _moksha
ludwigm wrote: ... pictures ...
The Maid of Orléans
The young Master of Palmyra (Note the Cougar blue)
This pairing by Zeezrom is quite remarkable.
Re: The First Vision Variant
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:01 pm
by _zeezrom
moksha wrote:ludwigm wrote: ... pictures ...
The Maid of OrléansThe young Master of Palmyra (Note the Cougar blue)
God, how beautiful clothing was back then!
Re: The First Vision Variant
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:27 pm
by _Yoda
If God had visited Joseph with his wife instead of his son, it certainly would have strengthened the position of Heavenly Mother as part of the LDS doctrine.
Even if all three had appeared, I think it would have been appropriate. (Father, Mother, Son.)
Re: The First Vision Variant
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:29 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Yeah, but women were considered to be chattel. Why would God give equal rights to a woman in the 18th century?
Anyway, we still have the Speed of Light issue reference the First Vision (& subsequent visions) to deal with...
- VRDRC
Re: The First Vision Variant
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:55 pm
by _zeezrom
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Yeah, but women were considered to be chattel. Why would God give equal rights to a woman in the 18th century?
Anyway, we still have the Speed of Light issue reference the First Vision (& subsequent visions) to deal with...
- VRDRC
At the time of the First Vision, Heavenly Mother and Father were still married. Soon afterwards (1833, to be exact), She became a free agent. Later, in the late 1840's, She inspired Charlotte Bronte with the words: "I am no bird; and no net ensnares me; I am a free human being with an independent will."