Committing adultery in my heart, in the unlikely future

[_zeezrom]

Remember that Tom Cruz movie where people get arrested before committing the crime? Well, I wonder if God looks at sinners the same way.

Case in point: A boy in my priests quorum had to delay his mission by a year because of some undisclosed infraction with a laurel. I didn't delay my mission and I might be tempted to think I was a more worthy soul than the boy staying home. But was I? I didn't have a GF like he did. What if I were in his shoes?

Since God is all knowing (per LDS doctrine), do you think he looked at my improbable future (i.e. having a steady GF before mission) and knew I would do the same as this other boy? Since it was very probable that I would have committed a similar sin given the unlikely circumstance, should I also be judged accordingly? I remember laying on my bed after school, listening to Dark Side of the Moon, thinking, "If a bikini-clad woman walked in this room right now and asked to make sweet love to me, I would sooo do it." Seriously, I remember that very thought - the prophet told us we don't forget our sins if we don't repent, remember? Rambling...

Anyway, I'm left with no choice but to conclude that the only difference between that boy who got the mission delay humiliation and myself is circumstance. God knows our heart and our future, unlikely sins.

[_DrW]

Zee,

You know, there is a very effective way to rid one's self of these kinds of questions, doubts and speculations. In doing so, one moves into a position to understand and accept, without reservation, the evidence based view of the world.

One then no longer need worry about what some imaginary god thinks about them or might do to them if they don't do what they think he wants them to do.

And one gets a 10% raise in the process.

Now, please don't think that I am trying to convert (or de-convert) you. Post Mormons have no organization for which the feel the need to proselytize. But sometimes we do feel the urge to help out.

Just pointing out a few facts in a thoughtful attempt to help you with your apparent existential issues.

Nobody will come knocking on your door because of this post.

[_why me]

Anyway, I'm left with no choice but to conclude that the only difference between that boy who got the mission delay humiliation and myself is circumstance. God knows our heart and our future, unlikely sins.

We all have free agency which is the freedom to choose. Most likely this young man was not humiliated by his delay. He knew he did wrong and confessed his sin. No problem. He felt good about it most likely.

Here is the point: don't worry about it. Live life and enjoy and make choices through free will that will not harm you, your wife or your children.

[_zeezrom]

Thanks for the replies (both of you).

I need to clarify that I'm not feeling like god is judging me for my unlikely future sins. Neither do I believe God ever did that in the past.

Sometimes I put my old hat on to look at ideas from that POV for more of just a rhetorical questioning.

I seriously question the idea of God knowing all.

[_zeezrom]

Leaving the Church is like:


Francisco de Goya y Lucientes

[_Ceeboo]

Hey Zee!

Just wanted to tell you that I always really enjoy reading your posts.

They are often very interesting and they usually cause me to reflect, pause, and think.

I appreciate the contributions you bring to the MDB table, Zee!

Peace,
Ceeboo

[_zeezrom]

Hey Zee! :smile:

Just wanted to tell you that I always really enjoy reading your posts.

They are often very interesting and they usually cause me to reflect, pause, and think.

I appreciate the contributions you bring to the MDB table, Zee! :smile:

Peace,
Ceeboo

Thanks Ceeboo. So what do you think? Is an all-knowing God just too troubling? Wouldn't it be easier for God to be merciful if he didn't know the future?

[_Hades]

Most likely this young man was not humiliated by his delay...No problem. He felt good about it most likely.

LOL

[_sock puppet]

We're organic and sexual creatures. When we get hungry, we think of food, then get and eat food. The smell of food attracts us. When thirsty, we think of water, and then drink some. For survival of the species, we desire to procreate. We think about those who we could possibly have sex with, particularly those that we find attractive.

Saying that it is wrong to think about having sex with someone is like saying it is wrong to enjoy the smell of a lasagna baking in the oven when you're hungry.

Sure, we humans have the capacity of higher, abstract thought. But that does not mean that we are no longer organic or that the organic functions and needs are wrong.

Religionists have tried to make all sorts of things wrong, including having sexual thoughts. JSJr wrote "For the natural man is an enemy to God, ... ." Mosiah 3:19. What an absurd god that would be. Why make anyone then organic, if the 'nature' of that existence is an enemy to the maker?

What kind of a god would delight in making you and hoping that you will choose to be frustrated and feel guilt? Did he create you so that he could witness you suffer? What kind of a sadist is this god?

[_Ceeboo]

Thanks Ceeboo.

You're welcome!

So what do you think? Is an all-knowing God just too troubling?

I don't know if I think it's "troubling" but I do believe God is all-knowing.
Way beyond my/your/our comprehension......... perhaps?

Wouldn't it be easier for God to be merciful if he didn't know the future?

As someone who believes there is indeed a God, surely you would understand if was very comfortable remaining completely silent on this and recognizing that God is God and I am not.

Peace,
Ceeboo