To Droopy: This is how a human should be.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Mujica

Don't you think Mr. Romney ought to give everything to the poor?

http://Bible.cc/matthew/19-21.htm

Are Atheist Socialist Liberals more humane than Mormons?

- VRDRC

[_Chap]

Oh.

Personal life

In 2005, Mujica married Lucía Topolansky, a fellow Tupamaro member and current senator, after many years of co-habitation. They have no children and live on an austere farm in the outskirts of Montevideo where they cultivate flowers as an economic activity. His humble lifestyle is reflected by his choice of an aging Volkswagen Beetle[23] as transport, his only asset.[24] His wife owns the farm they live on. The Economist describes him as "a roly-poly former guerrilla who grows flowers on a small farm and swears by vegetarianism".[25] He also donates 87% of his state salary to charitable causes.[26] In 2012 he donated 90% of his state salary to charitable causes.[27] [28] He does not believe in God.[29]

Jesus hates people like that.

[_Droopy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Mujica

Don't you think Mr. Romney ought to give everything to the poor?

1. No.

2. Lead by example, Cam.

3. How would Romney support and care for his wife and family, start businesses that employ others, and have the funds to invest in salvaging other companies from poor management practices or business models, thus saving many thousands of jobs that otherwise would be lost if he were to give all he had to the poor and thus impoverish himself, making savings and capital investment impossible? He could only do this once. What then?

4. Very nice to see you in open support of a "roly-poly" ex-member of a Stalinist terror organization. As one Latin American scholar who has written on the subject has clarified:

Among the ultimate objectives of the Tupamaro ideology was the construction of socialism, first in Uruguay and, later, in all of Latin America.* The method to be used to bring it about would be the application of Marxism-Leninism to the country's specific historical conditions (A-I, 9). There was little doubt in the minds of 'the Tupamaros that the most important target for their movement was the seizure of power to implement a socialist revolution (A-n, 3). The kind of socialism that would be built, however, would not be patterned on the blueprints already implemented by other socialist countries; it would be worked out according to the specific historical and developmental conditions of the country. For the Tupamaros such socialism would have to be nationalistic and would not necessarily adhere to any monolithic ideological bloc

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/uru ... amaros.pdf

One notices not only here the Marxist-Leninist ideological roots of the movement, but that this would be a national socialist movement as well (actually, this all sounds very Maoist in general outline).

While I'm quite sure you, Kevin, Eric, Bond, and any number of others here would love to jump onto this runaway train, I'm not at all sure Mitt Romney would have been likely to have taken up the offer.

Yeah, "roly-poly." Mujica sounds like the Bill Ayers of Uruguay.

Are Atheist Socialist Liberals more humane than Mormons?

Socialism is a theory and, in practical application, a system of slave economics and social organization with the state in control of most aspects of human life and potential. In its milder forms (democratic socialism), it simply consumes created wealth, prevents economic growth of any substance, and infantilizes the population.

As there is no Biblical mandate or core doctrine requiring the giving away of all wealth to the poor as a general principle, and as doing so, if everyone were to accept this maxim, would utterly destroy the entire economy at a stroke, I see no reason to take this seriously at any further length.

[_Droopy]

Romney's charitable activities have been massive, well documented, and a continuous aspect of his life and character for its duration.

And the other happy circumstance that ices the cake is that he's also not a terrorist murderer working to enslave his country and create a collectivist police state.

That would seem to be real plus, on the moral side of things, at least in a morally healthy world.

[_Droopy]

If Cam thinks that this is what a human "should be like," and that people like Mujico are in some sense moral role models, then Cam and much of the rest of the Left is precisely and exactly what I've always understood them to be (and what people like David Horowitz knows perfectly well they are): Totalitarian worshipers of power and their own hubris.

[_beefcalf]

As there is no Biblical mandate or core doctrine requiring the giving away of all wealth to the poor as a general principle

Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

Hey, as long as you don't agree with them, it is perfectly proper to ignore those things that Heavenly Father/Jesus said.

if everyone were to accept this maxim, would utterly destroy the entire economy at a stroke, I see no reason to take this seriously at any further length.

I see no reason to take the Elohim/Jehovah myth seriously either.

You and I are in perfect agreement.

[_bcspace]

Don't you think Mr. Romney ought to give everything to the poor?

Should George Soros?

Are Atheist Socialist Liberals more humane than Mormons?

If by humane you mean killing or enslaving whole populations, yes.

[_sock puppet]

Oh.

Personal life

In 2005, Mujica married Lucía Topolansky, a fellow Tupamaro member and current senator, after many years of co-habitation. They have no children and live on an austere farm in the outskirts of Montevideo where they cultivate flowers as an economic activity. His humble lifestyle is reflected by his choice of an aging Volkswagen Beetle[23] as transport, his only asset.[24] His wife owns the farm they live on. The Economist describes him as "a roly-poly former guerrilla who grows flowers on a small farm and swears by vegetarianism".[25] He also donates 87% of his state salary to charitable causes.[26] In 2012 he donated 90% of his state salary to charitable causes.[27] [28] He does not believe in God.[2:9]

Jesus hates people like that.[/quote

Well, Mormon Jesus hates people like that.

[Guest]

Romney's charitable activities have been massive....

Aside from the fact that Droopy needs a lesson in the uses of understatement, the above brings to mind something Hugh Nibley said about charitable giving:

"What counts is not how much you give away but how much you keep for yourself."

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Don't you think Mr. Romney ought to give everything to the poor?

1. No.

2. Lead by example, Cam.

I had a co-worker who has an autistic child. This last CFC season I gave my entire savings to this organization:

http://www.nationalautismcenter.org/

It was $15,000.

I've given over $30,000 to charitable causes in the last 5 years. Why? Cures ain't gonna crap themselves into reality.