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Hey people!

The following cliff notes are from a discussion I had with a few in real life friends.

As we enjoyed a delicious lunch together, the topic of Mormonism came up and this evolved into a dialouge about the term "anti-Mormon" (whatever that even means).

Anyway, as we all began talkng about this term, I asked my friends the following question:

Why do my LDS friends see it as perfectly okay for LDS people to go out (missionaries as well as others) and tell other people the 'truth' about Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon, Book of Abraham, golden plates, translation process, etc, etc).

BUT: If Ceeboo was to tell my LDS friends the 'truth' about Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon, Book of Abraham, golden plates, translation process, etc, etc) I am instantly and surely labeled an anti-Mormon.

I have a hunch (just a hunch as I am open to further thoughts, ideas, and perspectives from y'all) that the use of the term 'anti-Mormon' is, by design, a stop sign to discussion.

for what it's worth, I also believe that things like "I know the church is true", "I know Joseph is a prophet of God", and/or " I know the Book of Mormon is true", are also things that put an immediate halt to discussion.

While I certainly do not consider myself an anti-Mormon, I do indeed consider myself to be anti-Mormonism.

Am I an Anti-Mormon?

What say you?


Ohhh, and Happy Thanksgiving!

Peace,
Ceeboo

Ceeboo wrote:
Am I an Anti-Mormon?

No.

In my mind, an anti-Mormon is someone who wishes to persecute those who adhere to Mormonism, similar to an anti-Semite.

I don't agree that a testimony (I know the Church is true, etc) is a conversation stopper. If anything, it is a conversation starter - Mormons are taught that.

H.

Note - most faithful Mormons will feel persecuted if you bring up those points.

H.

Without a agreed upon definition as to what "Anti-Mormon" means there is no definitive answer. For some people, you are an Anti-Mormon for others not.

Why do my LDS friends see it as perfectly okay for LDS people to go out (missionaries as well as others) and tell other people the 'truth' about Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon, Book of Abraham, golden plates, translation process, etc, etc).

Because (their) God told them to.

BUT: If Ceeboo was to tell my LDS friends the 'truth' about Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon, Book of Abraham, golden plates, translation process, etc, etc) I am instantly and surely labeled an anti-Mormon.

Because you are attacking (their) God and therefore are not truthful.

I have a hunch (just a hunch as I am open to further thoughts, ideas, and perspectives from y'all) that the use of the term 'anti-Mormon' is, by design, a stop sign to discussion.

for what it's worth, I also believe that things like "I know the church is true", "I know Joseph is a prophet of God", and/or " I know the Book of Mormon is true", are also things that put an immediate halt to discussion.

Do you see a difference between your statements and "You're an atheist/agnostic", "I have faith God exists" or "I know the Bible to be the word of God"?

Interesting discussion Ceeboo.


Happy T-day to you too.

Ceeboo wrote:
Am I an Anti-Mormon?

What say you?

Peace,
Ceeboo

What is an anti-catholic? Any ideas? Most likely it would contain the same definition for an anti-mormon. It is not a question of disagreeing. Rather it is question of tone, language, and hostility.

Was the KKK anti-catholic a hundred years ago? If so, what made them anti-catholic? What language and tone did they use when talking about catholicism?

Ceeboo wrote:Hey people!
If Ceeboo was to tell my LDS friends the 'truth' about Mormonism (Joseph Smith, Book of Mormon, Book of Abraham, golden plates, translation process, etc, etc) I am instantly and surely labeled an anti-Mormon.

No. If Ceeboo was to tell anything then he are labelled.
Not You.

Anti-Mormon is a very easy definition.....

In it's base form it's simply someone who's against Mormonism.

In it's "normal" usage form, it's someone who's degrades, falsely represents, lies, etc. toward the religion, it's history, and it's leaders and people. It's someone who engages in bigotry.

Mormons don't actually use it to apply to someone who simply doesn't believe in or disagrees with Mormonism (the base definition). It's a term applied to "bigots" and bigotry so as to only label and evil being done, not simple disagreement or different beliefs. I disagree with and don't believe in Catholicism and all kinds of other beliefs, but I'm not a bigot toward them, degrading them unfairly, misrepresenting them, lying about them, etc... Thus, I'm not Anti-Catholic. Even the Anti-Defamation League has classified various anti-mormon actions (which are mainstream) as being bigotry, from "The God Makers" to the "Jesus Christ vs Joseph Smith" video, the later being much tamer but still FULL of lying about Mormonism.

As far as you Ceeboo..... From what I've seen of you, I don't per-se see you as an anti-mormon, thus not a bigot. But, there have been an occasion where you do state something that is anti-mormon, and thus in that instance you are acting like an anti-mormon. But, in general, I haven't seen you be too anti-mormon. Though, you have been more of one here than you were on MADB. Looser standards here and all, so you feel more free to say what you really believe, which sadly has more bigotry to it.....

why me wrote:

Ceeboo wrote:
Am I an Anti-Mormon?

What say you?

Peace,
Ceeboo

What is an anti-catholic? Any ideas? Most likely it would contain the same definition for an anti-mormon. It is not a question of disagreeing. Rather it is question of tone, language, and hostility.

Was the KKK anti-catholic a hundred years ago? If so, what made them anti-catholic? What language and tone did they use when talking about catholicism?

We aren't talking about anti-Catholics, although, you definitely are one.

Get on track.

Don't you get tired of being a hypocrite?

hobo1512 wrote:We aren't talking about anti-Catholics, although, you definitely are one.

Get on track.

Don't you get tired of being a hypocrite?

No.....

"Anti" means "against"..... A Mormon is not "against" anyone else. We are not "for" anyone else, and don't believe in anyone else, and but that doesn't mean we are "against" them.

I will Pray with a Catholic, I will not degrad him and misrepresent him, thus I'm not against him. An anti-mormon most will not pray with a Mormon, and they most certainly will misrepresent and degrade Mormonism, thus they are against us.

ldsfaqs wrote:

hobo1512 wrote:We aren't talking about anti-Catholics, although, you definitely are one.

Get on track.

Don't you get tired of being a hypocrite?

No.....

"Anti" means "against"..... A Mormon is not "against" anyone else. We are not "for" anyone else, and don't believe in anyone else, and but that doesn't mean we are "against" them.

I will Pray with a Catholic, I will not degrad him and misrepresent him, thus I'm not against him. An anti-mormon most will not pray with a Mormon, and they most certainly will misrepresent and degrade Mormonism, thus they are against us.

Thank you, but I was specifically addressing why me.

He is anti-Catholic.