A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
I am appalled at the number of posts I am observing on another discussion board frequented by the younger generation of individuals who are now stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don't believe, they are inwardly unbelieving but are still pressured, now even more so, to go on a mission. They are stressed, worried and don't know what to do.
With the age change pertaining to missions a new normal has been created. The task completed by lowering the age now removes the gap where a Mormon teen can experience life outside the mental compound of Mormon culture. I credit the few months I had between High School and my mission as showing me that life sucks in Mormonism and I would do what I could, in hindsight, to get the hell out of the 'compound'.
This along with the massive selling off of Corporation Sole assets drives home the bleeding membership numbers that correlate with internet adoption. Tithing is drying up and they are panicked. Squeezing dry the dwindling youth, pressing them into indentured servitude and performing cradle-to-grave mental slavery is the logical next step the Corporation Sole will use to make their chattel submit.
The LDS Church is evil, plain and simple. They want your children and your money and they will do anything to take it from you. This is now more apparent than ever in recent church history and affirms my theory that as the church collapses it will become increasingly insular. Mormons will be a fractured and dying 'culture', comparable to the Aryan Nation and other far-right groups.
I and others will enjoy the silence as tithing receipts drop like a rock, the hunting lodges and other mormon-elite perks disappear as they are sold off one by one to feed the slobbering maw of the well connected looking to build wealth with tithing funds they thought their grandchildren could count on. Its over, I'm calling it now. The rational public has rejected Mormonism despite millions spent promoting a dead and unethical model of living. Thank Mittens for showing Mormonism is only holding a pair of two's in hand going up against the Royal Flush held by the rationalist majority.
Subterfuge and concessions will not save your dying unethical culture. On the surface are baked goods and conservatism. At its rotten core is a financial engine that is out of balance and low on oil. the gears are starting to smoke and the flywheel is about to go careening through the wheelhouse. What will be left? An insular extremism and simmering hatred of popular culture, an American Taliban. I am not being hyperbolic. As the support structure is sucked dry by the rats fleeing a sinking ship, the Mormon elite will grab what they can, fighting endlessly with one another for ownership of farms, investment funds, real estate and the malls. Mormonism at the top is not about religion, unless your religion is crony capitalism.
Rant over.
With the age change pertaining to missions a new normal has been created. The task completed by lowering the age now removes the gap where a Mormon teen can experience life outside the mental compound of Mormon culture. I credit the few months I had between High School and my mission as showing me that life sucks in Mormonism and I would do what I could, in hindsight, to get the hell out of the 'compound'.
This along with the massive selling off of Corporation Sole assets drives home the bleeding membership numbers that correlate with internet adoption. Tithing is drying up and they are panicked. Squeezing dry the dwindling youth, pressing them into indentured servitude and performing cradle-to-grave mental slavery is the logical next step the Corporation Sole will use to make their chattel submit.
The LDS Church is evil, plain and simple. They want your children and your money and they will do anything to take it from you. This is now more apparent than ever in recent church history and affirms my theory that as the church collapses it will become increasingly insular. Mormons will be a fractured and dying 'culture', comparable to the Aryan Nation and other far-right groups.
I and others will enjoy the silence as tithing receipts drop like a rock, the hunting lodges and other mormon-elite perks disappear as they are sold off one by one to feed the slobbering maw of the well connected looking to build wealth with tithing funds they thought their grandchildren could count on. Its over, I'm calling it now. The rational public has rejected Mormonism despite millions spent promoting a dead and unethical model of living. Thank Mittens for showing Mormonism is only holding a pair of two's in hand going up against the Royal Flush held by the rationalist majority.
Subterfuge and concessions will not save your dying unethical culture. On the surface are baked goods and conservatism. At its rotten core is a financial engine that is out of balance and low on oil. the gears are starting to smoke and the flywheel is about to go careening through the wheelhouse. What will be left? An insular extremism and simmering hatred of popular culture, an American Taliban. I am not being hyperbolic. As the support structure is sucked dry by the rats fleeing a sinking ship, the Mormon elite will grab what they can, fighting endlessly with one another for ownership of farms, investment funds, real estate and the malls. Mormonism at the top is not about religion, unless your religion is crony capitalism.
Rant over.
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Re: A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
Mercury wrote:I am appalled at the number of posts I am observing on another discussion board frequented by the younger generation of individuals who are now stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don't believe, they are inwardly unbelieving but are still pressured, now even more so, to go on a mission. They are stressed, worried and don't know what to do.
Masturbate, smoke pot, drink, party on weekends, watch hardcore pornography, be sexually promiscuous, listen to Rap, Hip-Hop, and Heavy Metal, use vulgar, four-letter words a lot, and read Ann Rice novels.
Or, you could just come to Mormondiscussions.com and let the main protagonists here do all of this for you (you may still have to smoke your own dope to get the full effects, but you can come here and, as Greyhound used to say, "Leave the driving to us."
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- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
- Thomas Sowell
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
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Re: A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
I don't think Mormonism offers anything substantive for the upcoming generations. I can understand being baffled by BS when Mormonism was a regional religion, mostly, and could get its younger people to go away for a while, and then return to Zion. Once the world became integrated thanks to mass media and now the Internet, the lies and subterfuge of Mormon leadership are cataloged and easily researched. Most people, as their brains mature, and who aren't DSM case studies can see through it in a New York minute.
In other words, people are too sophisticated for the back wood 'merican religion of Joseph Smith's concoction. Heck, Mormons wouldn't buy Mormonism if it were presented to them under any other name. We see it here day in and day out as the Mopologists reject Mormonism, Mormon directives, and Mormon prophetic counsel on a daily basis.
V/R
Dr. Cam
In other words, people are too sophisticated for the back wood 'merican religion of Joseph Smith's concoction. Heck, Mormons wouldn't buy Mormonism if it were presented to them under any other name. We see it here day in and day out as the Mopologists reject Mormonism, Mormon directives, and Mormon prophetic counsel on a daily basis.
V/R
Dr. Cam
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
Droopy wrote:Masturbate, smoke pot, drink, party on weekends, watch hardcore pornography, be sexually promiscuous, listen to Rap, Hip-Hop, and Heavy Metal, use vulgar, four-letter words a lot, and read Ann Rice novels.
No, Mr. Droopy. Most people don't do that. YOU would do that if you didn't have Mormonism in your life.
Most people hike, watch sports, have hobbies, coach soccer, paint, read books, cook, go to museums, and generally live a productive life.
Jesus Christ you're a mess.
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
Mercury wrote:I am appalled at the number of posts I am observing on another discussion board frequented by the younger generation of individuals who are now stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don't believe, they are inwardly unbelieving but are still pressured, now even more so, to go on a mission. They are stressed, worried and don't know what to do.
With the age change pertaining to missions a new normal has been created. The task completed by lowering the age now removes the gap where a Mormon teen can experience life outside the mental compound of Mormon culture. I credit the few months I had between High School and my mission as showing me that life sucks in Mormonism and I would do what I could, in hindsight, to get the hell out of the 'compound'.
This along with the massive selling off of Corporation Sole assets drives home the bleeding membership numbers that correlate with internet adoption. Tithing is drying up and they are panicked. Squeezing dry the dwindling youth, pressing them into indentured servitude and performing cradle-to-grave mental slavery is the logical next step the Corporation Sole will use to make their chattel submit.
The LDS Church is evil, plain and simple. They want your children and your money and they will do anything to take it from you. This is now more apparent than ever in recent church history and affirms my theory that as the church collapses it will become increasingly insular. Mormons will be a fractured and dying 'culture', comparable to the Aryan Nation and other far-right groups.
I and others will enjoy the silence as tithing receipts drop like a rock, the hunting lodges and other mormon-elite perks disappear as they are sold off one by one to feed the slobbering maw of the well connected looking to build wealth with tithing funds they thought their grandchildren could count on. Its over, I'm calling it now. The rational public has rejected Mormonism despite millions spent promoting a dead and unethical model of living. Thank Mittens for showing Mormonism is only holding a pair of two's in hand going up against the Royal Flush held by the rationalist majority.
Subterfuge and concessions will not save your dying unethical culture. On the surface are baked goods and conservatism. At its rotten core is a financial engine that is out of balance and low on oil. the gears are starting to smoke and the flywheel is about to go careening through the wheelhouse. What will be left? An insular extremism and simmering hatred of popular culture, an American Taliban. I am not being hyperbolic. As the support structure is sucked dry by the rats fleeing a sinking ship, the Mormon elite will grab what they can, fighting endlessly with one another for ownership of farms, investment funds, real estate and the malls. Mormonism at the top is not about religion, unless your religion is crony capitalism.
Rant over.
YOU SIR ARE WRONG AND A MESSENGER OF SATAN. Did you not read this post viewtopic.php?f=1&t=27637
Why you are a sick and deprived Mormon Bastard Jesus and his Henchmen HATER! REPENT
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Re: A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
The world is full of organizations trying to separate people from their time and money. The church is no different. I don't think it is as simple as saying the church is evil. Like every other organization in the world, I think the church is a mix of good and bad. If it was purely evil, I don't think the church would have experienced the success it has over the years.
I think the truth claims of the church are built on a foundation of sand, but that doesn't mean it will get washed away so easily. Even in the information age, I think there is a market for one true churches. I think (and hope) that market is shrinking, but as long as there continues to be such a market, I think the church will continue more or less like it has in recent decades.
I think the truth claims of the church are built on a foundation of sand, but that doesn't mean it will get washed away so easily. Even in the information age, I think there is a market for one true churches. I think (and hope) that market is shrinking, but as long as there continues to be such a market, I think the church will continue more or less like it has in recent decades.
There are some who call me...Tim.
Re: A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
Tim the Enchanter wrote:The world is full of organizations trying to separate people from their time and money. The church is no different. I don't think it is as simple as saying the church is evil. Like every other organization in the world, I think the church is a mix of good and bad. If it was purely evil, I don't think the church would have experienced the success it has over the years.
I think the truth claims of the church are built on a foundation of sand, but that doesn't mean it will get washed away so easily. Even in the information age, I think there is a market for one true churches. I think (and hope) that market is shrinking, but as long as there continues to be such a market, I think the church will continue more or less like it has in recent decades.
Very true. I see Mormonism becoming an even more insular subculture, similar to white supremacists and the "sovereign" nutjobs. Utah will soon be the last bastion of Mormon majority, soon meaning in the next 10-30 years.
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Re: A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
YOU SIR ARE WRONG AND A MESSENGER OF SATAN. Did you not read this post viewtopic.php?f=1&t=27637
Why you are a sick and deprived Mormon Bastard Jesus and his Henchmen HATER! REPENT
LOL
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Re: A Losing Generation - Game over for "Mormonism"
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Droopy wrote:Masturbate, smoke pot, drink, party on weekends, watch hardcore pornography, be sexually promiscuous, listen to Rap, Hip-Hop, and Heavy Metal, use vulgar, four-letter words a lot, and read Ann Rice novels.
No, Mr. Droopy. Most people don't do that. YOU would do that if you didn't have Mormonism in your life.
Most people hike, watch sports, have hobbies, coach soccer, paint, read books, cook, go to museums, and generally live a productive life.
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Yes. It is bizarre. Either you are Mormon or you do all that stuff. Maybe Droopy likes to think that way because he feels that, well, at least if he loses his faith there are going to be some compensations.
I do notice one odd exclusion: Droopy evidently thinks that nobody, but nobody, ever parties on weekdays. Should we, perhaps tell him?
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Yes. It is bizarre. Either you are Mormon or you do all that stuff. Maybe Droopy likes to think that way because he feels that, well, at least if he loses his faith there are going to be some compensations.
I do notice one odd exclusion: Droopy evidently thinks that nobody, but nobody, ever parties on weekdays. Should we, perhaps tell him?
Well, the problem is that Loran [personal attack deleted], so we really can't count him as a valid source of coherent opinion.
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning