Chap wrote:Yes. It is bizarre. Either you are Mormon or you do all that stuff. Maybe Droopy likes to think that way because he feels that, well, at least if he loses his faith there are going to be some compensations.
I do notice one odd exclusion: Droopy evidently thinks that nobody, but nobody, ever parties on weekdays. Should we, perhaps tell him?
Well, the problem is that Loran is an alcoholic, so we really can't count him as a valid source of coherent opinion.
I am sorry to be so staid, but although I am willing to mock people for a lot of things, being an alcoholic is not one of them. It's attractive and addictive stuff, and some people get hooked. Kudos to those who manage to admit that it has happened to them, and maybe even manage to do something about it.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Tim the Enchanter wrote: I think the truth claims of the church are built on a foundation of sand, but that doesn't mean it will get washed away so easily.
Amazing. You do realize the the church has been predicted to be washed away from the point when joseph was murdered. But it still stands. Why? Because people still receive an answer when they pray earnestly about the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.
Plus, we have the 11 witnesses.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Chap wrote:I am sorry to be so staid, but although I am willing to mock people for a lot of things, being an alcoholic is not one of them. It's attractive and addictive stuff, and some people get hooked. Kudos to those who manage to admit that it has happened to them, and maybe even manage to do something about it.
In a way I agree that picking on someone for their illness is a bit wrong, but in the context of Lorans history it is the act of exposing his hypocrisy that I am accomplishing, not his illness.
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Tim the Enchanter wrote: I think the truth claims of the church are built on a foundation of sand, but that doesn't mean it will get washed away so easily.
Amazing. You do realize the the church has been predicted to be washed away from the point when joseph was murdered. But it still stands. Why? Because people still receive an answer when they pray earnestly about the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.
Plus, we have the 11 witnesses.
The overwhelming majority of people who pray about the Book of Mormon do not receive a witness, but instead are dismayed at its bufoonery. Your statement is laughable.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Tim the Enchanter wrote: I think the truth claims of the church are built on a foundation of sand, but that doesn't mean it will get washed away so easily.
Amazing. You do realize the the church has been predicted to be washed away from the point when joseph was murdered. But it still stands. Why? Because people still receive an answer when they pray earnestly about the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.
Plus, we have the 11 witnesses.
To each their own. My experience was that my belief in the truthfulness of the church disappeared after intense searching, pondering, and praying. Maybe I'm wrong. Could you be wrong?
Tim the Enchanter wrote: I think the truth claims of the church are built on a foundation of sand, but that doesn't mean it will get washed away so easily.
Amazing. You do realize the the church has been predicted to be washed away from the point when joseph was murdered. But it still stands. Why? Because people still receive an answer when they pray earnestly about the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.
Plus, we have the 11 witnesses.
Who do you know that has converted to Mormonism based on the 11 witnesses? Does anyone here know anybody that has ever converted or become a believer based on the Book of Mormon having "witnesses"?
Tchild wrote:Who do you know that has converted to Mormonism based on the 11 witnesses? Does anyone here know anybody that has ever converted or become a believer based on the Book of Mormon having "witnesses"?
Tits on a bull are more useful than the 11.
If anything the 11 witnesses, in their 'fast then get bloody drunk' style are a disconcerting refutation of the Book of Mormon and by extension Joseph Smith.
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Droopy wrote:Masturbate, smoke pot, drink, party on weekends, watch hardcore pornography, be sexually promiscuous, listen to Rap, Hip-Hop, and Heavy Metal, use vulgar, four-letter words a lot, and read Ann Rice novels.
Mercury wrote:I am appalled at the number of posts I am observing on another discussion board frequented by the younger generation of individuals who are now stuck between a rock and a hard place. They don't believe, they are inwardly unbelieving but are still pressured, now even more so, to go on a mission. They are stressed, worried and don't know what to do.
With the age change pertaining to missions a new normal has been created. The task completed by lowering the age now removes the gap where a Mormon teen can experience life outside the mental compound of Mormon culture. I credit the few months I had between High School and my mission as showing me that life sucks in Mormonism and I would do what I could, in hindsight, to get the hell out of the 'compound'.
This along with the massive selling off of Corporation Sole assets drives home the bleeding membership numbers that correlate with internet adoption. Tithing is drying up and they are panicked. Squeezing dry the dwindling youth, pressing them into indentured servitude and performing cradle-to-grave mental slavery is the logical next step the Corporation Sole will use to make their chattel submit.
The LDS Church is evil, plain and simple. They want your children and your money and they will do anything to take it from you. This is now more apparent than ever in recent church history and affirms my theory that as the church collapses it will become increasingly insular. Mormons will be a fractured and dying 'culture', comparable to the Aryan Nation and other far-right groups.
I and others will enjoy the silence as tithing receipts drop like a rock, the hunting lodges and other mormon-elite perks disappear as they are sold off one by one to feed the slobbering maw of the well connected looking to build wealth with tithing funds they thought their grandchildren could count on. Its over, I'm calling it now. The rational public has rejected Mormonism despite millions spent promoting a dead and unethical model of living. Thank Mittens for showing Mormonism is only holding a pair of two's in hand going up against the Royal Flush held by the rationalist majority.
Subterfuge and concessions will not save your dying unethical culture. On the surface are baked goods and conservatism. At its rotten core is a financial engine that is out of balance and low on oil. the gears are starting to smoke and the flywheel is about to go careening through the wheelhouse. What will be left? An insular extremism and simmering hatred of popular culture, an American Taliban. I am not being hyperbolic. As the support structure is sucked dry by the rats fleeing a sinking ship, the Mormon elite will grab what they can, fighting endlessly with one another for ownership of farms, investment funds, real estate and the malls. Mormonism at the top is not about religion, unless your religion is crony capitalism.
Rant over.
Could you give us an idea of which discussion board this is being discussed on? I'm just curious is all.
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