John M. Pontius and LSD Phony Zion Vs Nightlion

[_Nightlion]

Okay, so I went out and put down 24 samolians to buy John M. Pontius' THE TRIUMPH OF ZION: Our Personal Quest for the New Jerusalem. Not even a hard cover. Him and a co-researcher mined over 800 Zion quotes from scriptures and the Brethren and even a couple of sister authors to fluff out a thee hundred and some page book.

This is going to be a running review.

His foundation for Zion is the TEMPLE.........WRONG

His idea culled from a few Brethren quotes is that a translated state of spiritual perfection where we are worthy of the presence of God is requisite to enter Zion..........sort of. He waffles a bit. WRONG

This guy knows enough to know he is blowing crap with every breath. He admits that the privilege of doing Zion "MIGHT" be taken from the church.......
YA THINK

So far somehow from temple ordinances and covenants which I presume include the second annointing. This is probably where he is going to find ZION worthies. Cause such folks are made worthy to see Christ by being called in and having their feet washed and being anointed Gods...
NOT

Should I let the gas out of his inflated arrogance already.

NAW

I will keep you guessing how I bring down the lies and errors of the phony Zion.

As an aside. I leafed through Hinckley's Teachings. and three of Monson's Teachings books to see what made it into their index.

Hinckley
Christ 0
Born again 0
Baptism of fire 0
Sanctified 0
Repentance only the word is used once
Forgiveness only the word is used a few times (no teachings about either and no standard expressed.

Monson
Christ 0
Born again 0
Baptism of fire 0
Sanctified 0
Repentance only the word is used a few times
Forgiveness only the word is used a few times (no teachings about either and no standard expressed.

Elder Bednar
Baptism of fire 1 But it is the hybrid excellence crap where you assume you have the Spirit by striving to live by it.????

Makes some sense right? How could you be following the Spirit and striving to hear it everyday if you did not have it?
Arrogance wins........ooooh LDS is full of win.

[_Nightlion]

Shoot.....I mean, dang: John M. Pontius obit

Sigh. Not so much fun no more.

[_Nightlion]

Sure enough the next page almost and zion is pretty much a Gods only club, ala second endowmentesce translated beings only need apply. Pontius quotes Orson (whoopie) Pratt sayin' the 144000 are each God.

This sort of stuff keeps my deep seated resentment spiked being cast out and way over hated by LDS from my teenage years for speaking up for spiritual truth I alone defended. To be an exalted God almighty having that name on.theirb forehead as the presumption goes you MUST enter into the everlastingt covenant.....144000 were virgins who NEVER knew women.

Nobody can stand up for the truth against LDS leadership folly!!! I GET SHAFTED TO KEEP THE DREAM A LIE!!!

[_Equality]

Might I recommend the following?:

[_Nightlion]

I got too many years with chronic bitterness.

Thanks

[_Nightlion]

1952 ~ 2012
John Marion Pontius

This author was a year younger than me. His Zion theology was reliant upon many references by early LDS about translation status abiding in the Millennium and in Zion. Repeatedly urging the idea that if Enoch's zion is a translated society and the new zion is going to meet up with them, then everybody needs to be translated. hmm? I guess he forgot that those Enochians could manifest to us untranslated folks all the same.

Not meaning to be mean but looks like he was guessing and knew nothing from experience or accomplishment.
Just so you wont hate me I will tell you my dear diary moment for today. I was feeling wearily sad looking back at how much my LDS village meant to me growing up. If any kid needed a village, I did. It breaks my heart any time I think of how dear they were to me and how despised they dealt me lightly. I realized today that I never would have had the guts to sacrifice all and subject myself to the gospel willing to take the hit of losing my life, as it were, without thinking that I was doing it for the sake of my village. What a notion. Perhaps the gospel done right can only be accomplished thinking of others and not just for yourself. That seems to make good sense to me. How 'bout that?

There are some scriptures relating to this. But I might just save them if I fancy to write a book about the concept.

RESEARCHERS! I could use some help?

[_3sheets2thewind]

I knew John Pontius, he gave me some interesting advice before I left on my mission. He was sincere in his love of the Gospel.

[_Nightlion]

I knew John Pontius, he gave me some interesting advice before I left on my mission. He was sincere in his love of the Gospel.

If sincerity sanctified our world would be much finer. The Lord was notinsincere about giving the strong delusion to the Mormons who would not love thed truth butg had pleasure in unrighteousness. The perpetual shame defiles all sincerity. (2 Thess. 2)

[_Nightlion]

Relentlessly John goes on and on every-which-way to whitewash the LDS elite as pushing the envelope of righteousness. He can only do this by inference of calling and election, visitation of angels and making it as probable as he can that these sort can shorty expect to apply the law of translation to themselves as a shield and protection for that Zion which the Lord must come to and walk among his most valiant servants.

Problem is that faithfulness to the program of the LDS Church, which is NOT Zion, is the working standard used to gauge the mettle of righteousness. It supposes me that John Pontius sees the need for the LDS great souls (not just the leadership) to come off worthy of emulation. And that is all you got.

This was the standard from the beginning of the end for the Gentiles. When they rejected the Zion of the Restoration they set up the standard of follow the brethren. Sustain your file leader. Whomever did this well made up the calling pool from which the power and authority of the church would be chosen.

I guess the second and possibly the most urgent need for the LDS Church is to inspire a bountiful calling pool from which to draw leaders and workers from. Hence the ruse of a confabulation of a fantastic Zion destiny just a kiss away.

[_Nightlion]

I promised to review this book but since it is so obviously pure sycophancy I doubt very much my getting through it. Let me just say what I believe is the root and power of Zion.

With it Zion is and without it Zion is not possible. It has nothing to do with LDS Church valiance. Either the power of godliness has been put into your inward parts and you have partaken of the love of God that turns your heart first to God with all your heart, might, mind and strength and second to your neighbor's welfare or your expectation of Zion is vain.

The only requirement for admittance to Zion in full fellowship and honor and trust and a claim equal to any and all is that your faith and repentance has succeeded in having Christ and the Father put the name of Jesus Christ upon you by their own power in the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost. If translation comes thereafter let it come. It is not a requirement. Neither is the second anointing, and neither are temple ordinances.

I have seen already where John M Pontius is completely out of touch with the actual born of God event. He had not the slightest clue of it and was stretching to justify that which is clearly not begotten of Christ in God.

No recent or even nearly recent LDS Church leader or writer or student or professor has ever once rightly illuminated the core gospel of Jesus Christ as if any of them have had the least experience at it, so none of their Zion musing hold any weight.

I can't buy an argument on any point I posit lest I personally garner esteem as if worth the effort. So is the play book of how to deal with me been written and so it continues to be done. I am not offended but Christ is slighted not having his say through me vindicated and honored and upheld a right standard for all to have to deal with.