McClellan - same sex marriage

[_Servant]

I see that Daniel O. McClellan, sometimes called maklelan, says on his blog that he is not opposed to gay marriages. Is this a trend in the Mormon Church?

[_RockSlider]

likely only among the younger generations. Baby boomers probably not as much

[_bcspace]

I have never had a problem with gay marriage. Just leave the state out of it.

[_3sheets2thewind]

I see that Daniel O. McClellan, sometimes called maklelan, says on his blog that he is not opposed to gay marriages. Is this a trend in the Mormon Church?

He has made the same comments on this board.

[_3sheets2thewind]

I have never had a problem with gay marriage. Just leave the state out of it.

And by "leave the state out of it" you mean no laws against it, right?

[_EAllusion]

I have never had a problem with gay marriage. Just leave the state out of it.

And by "leave the state out of it" you mean no laws against it, right?

He means that gays can consider themselves married if they want, but the state shouldn't recognize their marriages and thus provide them with the legal rights and responsibilities that entails. It's a common refrain from those opposed to gay marriage.

[_KevinSim]

likely only among the younger generations. Baby boomers probably not as much

I'm somewhere between the Baby Boomers and "the younger generations"; I'm 53, so I don't know how you can call that a part of the younger generation.

I've stated my position on gay marriage before, but now that the question is raised again I'll repeat it. I don't see how you can justify gay marriage and at the same time argue against legalizing marriage for polygamous triples. I mean, what objection can you raise to legalizing polygamy that you couldn't use to object to gay and lesbian marriage?

Polygamists tried to get their alternate lifestyles legalized first, so they should get it legalized first. Or at the same time. If a group of politicians were to put together a bill that would legalize marriage between two or three adults of any gender combination, I would support that bill.

[_sunstoned]

likely only among the younger generations. Baby boomers probably not as much

I'm somewhere between the Baby Boomers and "the younger generations"; I'm 53, so I don't know how you can call that a part of the younger generation.

I've stated my position on gay marriage before, but now that the question is raised again I'll repeat it. I don't see how you can justify gay marriage and at the same time argue against legalizing marriage for polygamous triples. I mean, what objection can you raise to legalizing polygamy that you couldn't use to object to gay and lesbian marriage?

Polygamists tried to get their alternate lifestyles legalized first, so they should get it legalized first. Or at the same time. If a group of politicians were to put together a bill that would legalize marriage between two or three adults of any gender combination, I would support that bill.

for what it's worth, Kody Brown and his four wives (Sister Wives TV show) now have their law suite in front of a Federal Judge.

full story here

[_EAllusion]

likely only among the younger generations. Baby boomers probably not as much

I'm somewhere between the Baby Boomers and "the younger generations"; I'm 53, so I don't know how you can call that a part of the younger generation.

I've stated my position on gay marriage before, but now that the question is raised again I'll repeat it. I don't see how you can justify gay marriage and at the same time argue against legalizing marriage for polygamous triples. I mean, what objection can you raise to legalizing polygamy that you couldn't use to object to gay and lesbian marriage?

Polygamists tried to get their alternate lifestyles legalized first, so they should get it legalized first. Or at the same time. If a group of politicians were to put together a bill that would legalize marriage between two or three adults of any gender combination, I would support that bill.

I favor legalizing polygamy, but it has its own issues that are distinctive from gay marriage. Foremost, the legal system is set up to recognize pairs of people. It'd have to be modified in nonobvious ways to take into account multiple pairings. How do you set up child custody when one parent divorces from the other two? I think this can be resolved, but it's a problem. In countries where polygamy is legal, the system seems set up with sexist assumptions.

The other issue to consider is that polygamous relationships often, though not intrinsically, are set up with power dynamics that are abusive towards women. I don't think that fact is enough to not legalize it, but it's an argument available to opponents that isn't there in the case of gay marriage.

[_Sethbag]

...I don't see how you can justify gay marriage and at the same time argue against legalizing marriage for polygamous triples. I mean, what objection can you raise to legalizing polygamy that you couldn't use to object to gay and lesbian marriage?

Polygamists tried to get their alternate lifestyles legalized first, so they should get it legalized first. Or at the same time. If a group of politicians were to put together a bill that would legalize marriage between two or three adults of any gender combination, I would support that bill.

Question: would all three adults be married to each other? Or would the two of one sex be married to the one of the other sex, but not to each other?

If the former, then it looks like you'd have polygamy and gay marriage at the same time, rather than as separate things.