A Thoughtful Faith? O The Irony!

[_sock puppet]

So you respect adults, intelligent adults, for professing belief in deity for which there is no evidence, but condemn those that favor free markets that have a historical track record for being integral to motivating many of the innovations that have improved everyone's lives?

Since when do I condemn those who favor free markets?

Hey, favor away!

I have no idea why we are picking up this red herring.

It only seems red to the red handed.

[_Kishkumen]

I really hate exit posts.

Farewell! I wish we could have parted on an up note.

[_Kishkumen]

It only seems red to the red handed.

Yes, you have been caught red-handed putting words in my mouth.

Well written.

[_The Dude]

So how many times has John Dehlin gone back and forth between activity/inactivity? If he's going to council people about religious issues, this would be nice to know.

If you found out your marriage councilor had been divorced four times you might consider his advice in a different light. Maybe as coming from someone with a lot of experience but not a great deal of wisdom.

I lost track during the podcasts. I counted at least 3 returns to the faith.

Yeah well we'll just see how this journey ends.

Speaking of the Matrix, I agree with Kishkumen that it sucked.
I really liked The Truman Show, though.

Then there's The Truman Show II, where Truman decides to go back to Seahaven even though he knows it's just a TV show. He'll play along because it's safe and they take care of him, physically and emotionally as well. He even has a few kids on the TV show and tells them the TV show is reality (the next generation of Trumans!) But in the end he gets fed up because of basically the same things as the first time. He gets mad and storms off the set again, just like before!

[_The Dude]

If you found out your marriage councilor had been divorced four times you might consider his advice in a different light. Maybe as coming from someone with a lot of experience but not a great deal of wisdom.

LOL. Wow.

Yeah, that totally works.

If my money manager was able to make me millions, but then he lost all of his money on the market, I would have to conclude that he totally sucked at his job. If I found out that the professor who taught me criminal law sucked at practicing law, although I ended up being a great lawyer thanks in part to her teaching, I would have to say she sucked as a teacher because she didn't make it as a lawyer.

I totally see that now. Thanks for that.

Oh, I see. You're saying after the fact, if you discovered the marriage councilor was a serial divorcee, it would be pointless to reconsider his wisdom, since he has already brought you into marital bliss.

What I meant was if you were shopping around and you found a marriage councilor who was a serial divorcee. Then what? Totally blow it off or keep shopping? That's what I'm talking about.

[_sock puppet]

If you found out your marriage councilor had been divorced four times you might consider his advice in a different light. Maybe as coming from someone with a lot of experience but not a great deal of wisdom.

LOL. Wow.

Yeah, that totally works.

If my money manager was able to make me millions, but then he lost all of his money on the market, I would have to conclude that he totally sucked at his job. If I found out that the professor who taught me criminal law sucked at practicing law, although I ended up being a great lawyer thanks in part to her teaching, I would have to say she sucked as a teacher because she didn't make it as a lawyer.

I totally see that now. Thanks for that.

Oh, I see. You're saying after the fact, if you discovered the marriage councilor was a serial divorcee, it would be pointless to reconsider his wisdom, since he has already brought you into marital bliss.

What I meant was if you were shopping around and you found a marriage councilor who was a serial divorcee. Then what? Totally blow it off or keep shopping? That's what I'm talking about.

Well, before you keep shopping, you should self induce a positive emotion through prolonged, ardent meditation and accept others' suggested interpretation about whether the emotion means you should nevertheless use this councilor or not--oh, and don't forget, don't question these others' sincerity, they might really think 'God' is telling them to tell you.

But, hey, thinking for yourself is an option, but of course "it is of the devil"--but remember, you must respect them despite the fact they disrespect you.

[_Kishkumen]

Oh, I see. You're saying after the fact, if you discovered the marriage councilor was a serial divorcee, it would be pointless to reconsider his wisdom, since he has already brought you into marital bliss.

What I meant was if you were shopping around and you found a marriage councilor who was a serial divorcee. Then what? Totally blow it off or keep shopping? That's what I'm talking about.

OK, well, when you call the person "your marriage counselor," it sounds like the person is already your marriage counselor, not a person in the yellow pages.

[_Sammy Jankins]

And with that, my participation at MD comes to an end. I was going to have to stop or severely curtail my participation after February 11th as I am getting a new job that won't allow me as much time to waste on the interwebs.

But, it seems poetic justice to ride out on the same wave I rode in on. The first thread I ever participated in at MD was a John Dehlin thread:

viewtopic.php?p=259910#p259910

I'm sure there will be many more Dehlin threads (past performance being a generally reliable predictor of future events in these types of cases), but it's time to move on.

As a double bonus I get to retire at 1781 posts, a philosophically significant number as that's the year Immanuel Kant first published Critique of Pure Reason. One of my favorite books and in my opinion the greatest philosophy book ever published.

So, thanks for all the lulz and God be with you till we meet again.

Sorry to hear that. for what it's worth I thought you were one of the best posters on the site. You always seemed to bring new insights to the topics in which you participated.

[_Cicero]

And with that, my participation at MD comes to an end. I was going to have to stop or severely curtail my participation after February 11th as I am getting a new job that won't allow me as much time to waste on the interwebs.

But, it seems poetic justice to ride out on the same wave I rode in on. The first thread I ever participated in at MD was a John Dehlin thread:

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 10#p259910

I'm sure there will be many more Dehlin threads (past performance being a generally reliable predictor of future events in these types of cases), but it's time to move on.

As a double bonus I get to retire at 1781 posts, a philosophically significant number as that's the year Immanuel Kant first published Critique of Pure Reason. One of my favorite books and in my opinion the greatest philosophy book ever published.

So, thanks for all the lulz and God be with you till we meet again.

I am sorry to hear that.

[_lulu]

after February 11th as I am getting a new job that won't allow me as much time to waste on the interwebs.

I hate it when that happens.

Good luck and I hope good money.