Hamblin and Peterson: Might as well be a couple of rocks.

[_RockSlider]

If it makes you any happier, I might even attend Church (once only) as a form of contrition.

lol ... kish make him clarify all three periods are required

[_Kishkumen]

Sure, you are experienced with Mormonism, but that does not mean you are fair about it. I am also unaware of any experience you have as a managing editor of an academic press or any special knowledge you have of the inside workings of the Maxwell Institute at present such that you would have any basis for questioning Carl's representation of the situation.

I am happy to retract the word "ignorance" from my statement when you provide me some idea of your experience in a managing editor's position at an academic press and your special knowledge of what is happening at the Maxwell Institute right now that obviously throws Carl's statement into serious doubt. Nothing you said earlier suggested that you had ever held the position of managing editor or that you had such special inside knowledge of the Maxwell Institute.

[_DrW]

Sure, you are experienced with Mormonism, but that does not mean you are fair about it. I am also unaware of any experience you have as a managing editor of an academic press or any special knowledge you have of the inside workings of the Maxwell Institute at present such that you would have any basis for questioning Carl's representation of the situation.

I am happy to retract the word "ignorance" from my statement when you provide me some idea of your experience in a managing editor's position at an academic press and your special knowledge of what is happening at the Maxwell Institute right now that obviously throws Carl's statement into serious doubt. Nothing you said earlier suggested that you had ever held the position of managing editor or that you had such special inside knowledge of the Maxwell Institute.

The word I asked you to retract was "ignorant" (not "ignorance"). You claimed that I used the word "ignorant" in referring to Carl Griffin. I did not do so.

Also, I never claimed to have any special inside knowledge regarding the publication of documents at MI. For all I know, they might just plan to throw them all up on the internet and call it good.

I only observed that someone who claims they have 27 book manuscripts in the editorial pipeline and states that all of them have been accepted for publication (as in ready to go to production), and then notes as a significant achievement that proposed book titles are pouring in and that he has two pages of proposed book titles from one lunch meeting, and then says that (even though he has 27 book manuscripts that have been accepted for publication), he only plans to publish 6 or 7 books in the next year, does not come across as very professional.

And I absolutely stand by that statement. If that casts serious doubt on Carl Griffin's credibility to you, then I am sorry.

Now, if you wish to accept my concession as to the revised wording of your post, claim victory, and send me back to Church, you will need to hurry. The offer ends at midnight.

[Guest]

So Dan made a comment about my blog post:

I'm not quite sure, Seth, why you felt the need to bring this issue into the discussion on this thread. If, as it seems, it was just to be snotty, I have to admit that I'm disappointed. You're generally a better person than that.

Let me just say that I was puzzled by Patrick Mitford's vehement disagreement when it was brought to my attention, so I consulted with a friend who is one of the leading current authorities on Greek philosophy in general and on the pre-Socratics and Aristotle in particular . . . and he liked the article.

I'm inclined to trust his expertise on the matter more than yours and more than Mitford's.

So not only is your response snotty and irrelevant, it's misguided. A lesson to the wise: Don't rely on Patrick Mitford or whatever his name is.

I’ve been trumped by an unnamed expert!

ETA: lol @ Mitford.

ETA 2: I stand corrected! Dan's Blog Post

[_Blixa]

Lol. Snotty is as snotty does. "Whatever his name is..." indeed. Apparently snottiness is one thing DCP knows pretty well.

At least the appeal to authority didn't cite a Carol Rumen's book blurb.

And you have a lineage that goes back to the Norman conquests...

[_Blixa]

*cough*

[_schreech]

I’ve been trumped by an unnamed expert!

ETA: lol @ Mitford.

ETA 2: I stand correct! Dan's Blog Post

What a sad, insecure, petty man...At least he has a handful of equally pathetic fan boys (yes men) to encourage him in all his embarrassing online antics. Based on the few things I have read by him and some of his (recently sacked) sidekicks at their new site, its no wonder that their "scholarship" wasn't really taken seriously outside a very small segment of the believing LDS community. With such thin skin, it makes sense that he didn't really attempt to publish anything outside the small believing community that actually took Farms seriously.

[_Bond James Bond]

ETA 2: I stand corrected! Dan's Blog Post

I love that he won't post a link to the actual message board he talks about (constantly) or to the actual piece by Stak.

[_TrashcanMan79]

ETA 2: I stand corrected! Dan's Blog Post

I love that he won't post a link to the actual message board he talks about (constantly) or to the actual piece by Stak.

For real.

You're lame, Mister Peterson. Really, really lame.

[_Kishkumen]

The word I asked you to retract was "ignorant" (not "ignorance"). You claimed that I used the word "ignorant" in referring to Carl Griffin. I did not do so.

Oh, come now. Don't be obtuse. You certainly did imply he was ignorant.

Also, I never claimed to have any special inside knowledge regarding the publication of documents at MI. For all I know, they might just plan to throw them all up on the internet and call it good.

Yes, for all we know, you're a Somali pirate with great satellite internet access.

I only observed that someone who claims they have 27 book manuscripts in the editorial pipeline and states that all of them have been accepted for publication (as in ready to go to production), and then notes as a significant achievement that proposed book titles are pouring in and that he has two pages of proposed book titles from one lunch meeting, and then says that (even though he has 27 book manuscripts that have been accepted for publication), he only plans to publish 6 or 7 books in the next year, does not come across as very professional.

Well, I've observed that you have become tedious in your display of arrogance and ignorance.

And I absolutely stand by that statement. If that casts serious doubt on Carl Griffin's credibility to you, then I am sorry.

I don't doubt what Carl says based on your uninformed opining. Don't flatter yourself. I know it's a challenge for you.

Now, if you wish to accept my concession as to the revised wording of your post, claim victory, and send me back to Church, you will need to hurry. The offer ends at midnight.

If we could get you to spend a night in the state penitentiary, it might be tempting.