First Principles in GD Class Yesterday

[_harmony]

That poor girl has terrible back aches that will only get worse with age.

Consig, we had stake conference on Sunday, which I didn't attend due to the nature of the seats, so it was good to see that in one ward, at least, someone was getting some valuable instruction.

[_Bazooka]

That poor girl has terrible back aches that will only get worse with age.

Nice one h

[_DrW]

That poor girl has terrible back aches that will only get worse with age.

You are probably right.

The girl at the helm is more my type, anyway. (She is Russian and her major anatomical assets are located in her head instead of on her rib cage.) However, since she always insists on driving the boat, I do not have a picture of her at the pulpit, so I had to take what was available on the internet. (For illustrative purposes only, of course.)

by the way: if you have ever been to South Florida, you will appreciate that there is a relatively larger population of the Girl # 2 types as opposed to Girl #1 types on the coastal waters down here. It is just a burden that we males must bear.

[_bcspace]

Seems like fried chicken and sailing combine to produce hallucinations above the bowsprit......

Consig, you seem to blame the problem on Joseph Smith but have you not noticed the difference between Acts 2 and 10 and have you not been able to reconciled it yet?

[_DrW]

Seems like fried chicken and sailing combine to produce hallucinations above the bowsprit......

Sorry. No fried chicken allowed on the boat.

Hallucinations can occur on long passages, however. They are likely due mainly to sleep deprivation. Exposure to unusual stimuli such as lightning at sea or bio-luminescent marine life, or flying fish landing on the deck, especially on dark nights when one is alone on watch and sleep deprived, may contribute as well.

However, having hallucinations and believing that the associated perceptions are real are two different things. This differentiation is something that many religionists seem to struggle with.

[_consiglieri]

Consig, you seem to blame the problem on Joseph Smith but have you not noticed the difference between Acts 2 and 10 and have you not been able to reconciled it yet?

I said nothing about a problem.

[_bcspace]

I said nothing about a problem.

Sure you did. Just not in any explicit fashion and not that said problem is a problem for the Church, just a problem for us to chew on and mull over.

However, having hallucinations and believing that the associated perceptions are real are two different things. This differentiation is something that many religionists seem to struggle with.

Glad I don't have that problem. But since your religion has more to do with revering nature, one should note the many substances in nature that produce hallucinations and the many extant visions in nature that lead one down to the land of the Lotus-eaters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yV0I3lKito

[_DrW]

However, having hallucinations and believing that the associated perceptions are real are two different things. This differentiation is something that many religionists seem to struggle with.

Glad I don't have that problem. But since your religion has more to do with revering nature, one should note the many substances in nature that produce hallucinations and the many extant visions in nature that lead one down to the land of the Lotus-eaters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yV0I3lKito

At least we radical naturalists can enjoy our (exogenous) chemically induced transcendent experiences if we choose to do so, while recognizing that they are just that. It would appear that most humans can also train their brains to provide transcendent experiences from the release of endogenous chemicals, if they are willing to dedicate the time and effort to do so.

Religionists are conditioned to believe in all manner of imaginary make-them-up-as-you-go-along deities as the sources of their spiritual experiences, when these experiences actually arise from the release of endogenous chemicals in the brain.

[_EmilyAnn]

In our family, there is nothing like attending church at the helm of a sailboat slicing through the waves in a fresh breeze off the coast on a warm sunny Sunday afternoon in February. Below is an image of the helm on one such afternoon.



In fact, unlike the Smithsonian or KFC (both worthy and sanctified places, for sure) sailboats actually have a pulpit at which one can stand to admire (and worship if you wish) the beauties of nature. Sometimes the beauties of nature can be observed sitting on the pulpit as well, as shown below.

(For illustrative purposes only as to the location and use of a sailboat pulpit. The beauty of nature shown below is not on my pulpit and not on my crew).



Sorry for the derail, consig., really. But I am so over GD class as a way to waste a Sunday, I just couldn't help myself. I guess my first principle regarding GD class is not to be there, under any circumstances.

I really love the lady...or I mean sailboat in the picture.

Living where I live I should be a sailor, but I am not. I am not responsible enough to be in charge of a sailboat. We have now lived within general walking distance of neighborhood docks yet we never capitalized on the experience. Being that I am originally from pittsburgh, I really appreciate now living near substantial water.

DrW: The photo of you and your family on the sailboat is very nice and you--to dispute the male opinions which have already been posted--are a fine looking man. In no way are you outside of any norms of attractiveness in men...so do not listen to male opinions who do not understand what females consider attractive. Unless you are bi or gay, I would disregard the posted male opinions as superfluous. (If you are bi or gay, then maybe you should pay attention to them.)

The beauty of nature photo you posted is indeed a beauty of nature and reminds me very strongly of the PLAYBOY centerfold pix circa the 1980s...which obviously indicates that you have excellent, inborn, editorial taste.

Edited to Add: I posted this to the wrong thread. I apologize.

[_Polygamy-Porter]

I don't call it Sunday any more. It is the second Saturday.