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Re: The right time to marry | March Ensign 2013
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:47 pm
by _Harold Lee
The idea of romance was locked and starved in the basement a long time ago.
Marriage is about obedience, faith, and charity. Romance is base and perverse.
Only within mormondom is getting engaged and married as quickly as possible praised as spiritual, and long engagements and dating for years considered lacking faith.
Re: The right time to marry | March Ensign 2013
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:26 am
by _Brackite
The LDS Apostle, Who has made it his calling to call the Single LDS Males to repentance is Dallin H. Oaks.
LDS Apostle Dallin H. Oaks has stated:
Our concept of marriage is motivated by revealed truth, not by worldly sociology. The Apostle Paul taught “neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord” (
1 Cor. 11:11). President Spencer W. Kimball explained, “Without proper and successful marriage, one will never be exalted” (Marriage and Divorce, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1976, p. 24).
According to custom, men are expected to take the initiative in seeking marriage. That is why President Joseph F. Smith directed his prophetic pressure at men. He said, “No man who is marriageable is fully living his religion who remains unmarried” (Gospel Doctrine, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1939, p. 275). We hear of some worthy LDS men in their thirties who are busy accumulating property and enjoying freedom from family responsibilities without any sense of urgency about marriage. Beware, brethren. You are deficient in a sacred duty.
(Ensign, Nov. 1993.) Simple and more frequent dates allow both men and women to “shop around” in a way that allows extensive evaluation of the prospects. The old-fashioned date was a wonderful way to get acquainted with a member of the opposite sex. It encouraged conversation. It allowed you to see how you treat others and how you are treated in a one-on-one situation. It gave opportunities to learn how to initiate and sustain a mature relationship. None of that happens in hanging out.
My single brothers and sisters, follow the simple dating pattern and you don’t need to do your looking through Internet chat rooms or dating services—two alternatives that can be very dangerous or at least unnecessary or ineffective.
There is another possible contributing factor to the demise of dating and the prominence of the culture of hanging out. For many years the Church has counseled young people not to date before age 16. Perhaps some young adults, especially men, have carried that wise counsel to excess and determined not to date before 26 or maybe even 36.
Men, if you have returned from your mission and you are still following the boy-girl patterns you were counseled to follow when you were 15, it is time for you to grow up. Gather your courage and look for someone to pair off with. Start with a variety of dates with a variety of young women, and when that phase yields a good prospect, proceed to courtship. It’s marriage time. That is what the Lord intends for His young adult sons and daughters. Men have the initiative, and you men should get on with it. If you don’t know what a date is, perhaps this definition will help. I heard it from my 18-year-old granddaughter. A “date” must pass the test of three p’s: (1) planned ahead, (2) paid for, and (3) paired off.
(Ensign, June 2006.) I close with a final example of a desire that should be paramount for all men and women—those who are currently married and those who are single. All should desire and seriously work to secure a marriage for eternity. Those who already have a temple marriage should do all they can to preserve it. Those who are single should desire a temple marriage and exert priority efforts to obtain it. Youth and young singles should resist the politically correct but eternally false concept that discredits the importance of marrying and having children. 7
Single men, please consider the challenge in this letter written by a single sister. She pleaded for “the righteous daughters of God that are sincerely searching for a worthy helpmeet, yet the men seem to be blinded and confused as to whether or not it is their responsibility to seek out these wonderful, choice daughters of our Heavenly Father and court them and be willing to make and keep sacred covenants in the Lord’s house.” She concluded, “There are many single LDS men here that are happy to go out and have fun, and date and hang out, but have absolutely no desire to ever make any kind of commitment to a woman.” 8
I am sure that some anxiously seeking young men would want me to add that there are some young women whose desires for a worthy marriage and children rank far below their desires for a career or other mortal distinctions. Both men and women need righteous desires that will lead them to eternal life.
(Ensign, May 2011.)
Re: The right time to marry | March Ensign 2013
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:49 pm
by _Fiannan
Age does not really matter. The research indicates that people married in their early 20s are about as apt to be together 10 years later than those married at 30.
Re: The right time to marry | March Ensign 2013
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:22 pm
by _Mayan Elephant
Baker wrote:Who would have thunk that a small town in Norway could have a good high school?! Geez, these people are so Utah-centric it's sickening.
like most of these stories, it never happened. this is not how it all went down, even if these two people actually exist, which i doubt.
Re: The right time to marry | March Ensign 2013
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:41 pm
by _Lucretia MacEvil
I'd guess the author of the article had no more than a tenth grade education and it appears to have been written for those with fourth grade educations.
Re: The right time to marry | March Ensign 2013
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:15 pm
by _DarkHelmet
Brackite wrote:“6. Some put off marriage for financial reasons. Postponing marriage until money is sufficient to sustain a stylish living is not wise. So much of life together—struggling, adjusting, and learning to cope with life’s challenges—is lost when that happens.”
And they are still teaching this garbage.
Apparently, and they should really rethink teaching this. Finanacial stress has long been the #1 cause of divorce. I don't think being married in the temple reduces the stress that it causes on a marriage. In fact, I would assume in a single income household, which the church also emphasizes, financial problems would cause finger pointing. The wife would blame the husband for not making enough money, the husband would blame the wife for not having a job. Financial stress can bring a lot of ugliness to even the best marriages.
Re: The right time to marry | March Ensign 2013
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:43 pm
by _just me
Fiannan wrote:Age does not really matter. The research indicates that people married in their early 20s are about as apt to be together 10 years later than those married at 30.
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