Church confirms location of Hill Cumorah...

[_Bazooka]

The very recent news about the updating of the scriptural canon and associated materials gives us the opportunity to see the official position of the Church with regards to where the events of the Book of Mormon took place. Now I'm not saying the Church states exactly where it all happened, but it does confirm the location of a key location from which an assessment based on the geographical metrics within the book itself can be made about where it happened.

In this new upgrade the Church confirms, once and for all, the location of the Hill Cumorah...

On this map
http://www.LDS.org/scriptures/history-m ... 2?lang=eng

In this actual photograph
http://www.LDS.org/scriptures/history-p ... 2?lang=eng

In this guide to the scriptures
http://www.LDS.org/scriptures/gs/cumorah-hill?lang=eng

Looking northward, this photograph shows the Hill Cumorah in Manchester, New York. The hill appears in the lower right-hand corner of the photograph and runs slightly over halfway to its top. The white monument visible on the north end of the hill honors the angel Moroni and the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. The Hill Cumorah is located about 3 miles (4.8 kilometers) southeast of the Sacred Grove. Near the top of the photograph is Palmyra Village, 4 miles (6.5 kilometers) distant. The Smith farm and the Sacred Grove are situated at the upper left side of the photograph.

Significant Events: The family of the Prophet Joseph Smith lived in this area at the time of the First Vision (Joseph Smith—H 1:3). In A.D. 421, Moroni buried a set of gold plates in the Hill Cumorah containing the sacred history of his people (W of M 1:1–11; Morm. 6:6; Moro. 10:1–2). This same Moroni told Joseph Smith where to find the plates on the hill. Moroni delivered them to him in 1827 (D&C 27:5; 128:20; Joseph Smith—H 1:33–35, 51–54, 59).

I guess Sorenson can stop digging....

And I guess this statement...

The Church emphasizes the doctrinal and historical value of the Book of Mormon, not its geography. While some Latter-day Saints have looked for possible locations and explanations [for Book of Mormon geography] because the New York Hill Cumorah does not readily fit the Book of Mormon description of Cumorah, there are no conclusive connections between the Book of Mormon text and any specific site.
—Fax from the Office of the First Presidency to FARMS, April 12, 1993.

...is very disingenuous, when the Church officially makes a specific connection between the Hill Cumorah in the Book of Mormon and a very specific site, as shown above.

[_bcspace]

The real question is if it's the same Cumorah that the last battle took place on. Even anti Mormons wonder where all the rusty swords and bones are.

[_Equality]

The real question is if it's the same Cumorah that the last battle took place on. Even anti Mormons wonder where all the rusty swords and bones are.

According to the Book of Mormon verse referenced, it is the same hill:

1 And now I finish my record concerning the destruction of my people, the Nephites. And it came to pass that we did march forth before the Lamanites.

2 And I, Mormon, wrote an epistle unto the king of the Lamanites, and desired of him that he would grant unto us that we might gather together our people unto the land of Cumorah, by a hill which was called Cumorah, and there we could give them battle.

3 And it came to pass that the king of the Lamanites did grant unto me the thing which I desired.

4 And it came to pass that we did march forth to the land of Cumorah, and we did pitch our tents around about the hill Cumorah; and it was in a land of many waters, rivers, and fountains; and here we had hope to gain advantage over the Lamanites.

5 And when three hundred and eighty and four years had passed away, we had gathered in all the remainder of our people unto the land of Cumorah.

6 And it came to pass that when we had gathered in all our people in one to the land of Cumorah, behold I, Mormon, began to be old; and knowing it to be the last struggle of my people, and having been commanded of the Lord that I should not suffer the records which had been handed down by our fathers, which were sacred, to fall into the hands of the Lamanites, (for the Lamanites would destroy them) therefore I made this record out of the plates of Nephi, and hid up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted to me by the hand of the Lord, save it were these few plates which I gave unto my son Moroni.

[_sock puppet]

The real question is if it's the same Cumorah that the last battle took place on. Even anti Mormons wonder where all the rusty swords and bones are.

It's an imaginary battle. There is only a need for rusty swords and bones in your imagination.

[_bcspace]

It's an imaginary battle. There is only a need for rusty swords and bones in your imagination.

One doesn't need them at all for a battle to have taken place that long ago.

[_sock puppet]

It's an imaginary battle. There is only a need for rusty swords and bones in your imagination.

One doesn't need them at all for a battle to have taken place that long ago.

Not when it was an imaginary battle, that is.

[_bcspace]

I don't claim it to be imaginary.

[_sock puppet]

I don't claim it to be imaginary.

So, give us the longitude and latitude coordinates of where it took place. We'll send archaeologists to go and dig. Oh, you don't know those coordinates? Have the Qo15 put on their tin foil hats next Thursday, when in the Holy of Holies in the SLC Temple, and ask Elohim. He giveth liberally, right? So you can know the truth of ALL things, right? (Moroni 10:5)

[_bcspace]

According to the Book of Mormon verse referenced, it is the same hill:

Notice that after the battle Moroni wandered for 35+ years. Mormon merely hid them to protect them from the immediate situation of the last conflict. Moroni obviously got them out after the battle so he could add to the record. Pretty compelling evidence for two Cumorah's you've pointed out there thanks.

So, give us the longitude and latitude coordinates of where it took place. We'll send archaeologists to go and dig. Oh, you don't know those coordinates? Have the Qo15 put on their tin foil hats next Thursday, when in the Holy of Holies in the SLC Temple, and ask Elohim. He giveth liberally, right? So you can know the truth of ALL things, right? (Moroni 10:5)

All those centuries and Troy just a mythological city......Come talk to me AFTER you've given the Book of Mormon the same amount of archeological resources as the Bible has gotten.

[_Equality]

Notice that after the battle Moroni wandered for 35+ years. Mormon merely hid them to protect them from the immediate situation of the last conflict. Moroni obviously got them out after the battle so he could add to the record. Pretty compelling evidence for two Cumorah's you've pointed out there thanks.

Not so fast. The official church doctrine links the Hill Cumorah where Moroni buried the plates to the one Mormon references in the scripture verse I quoted. it is your church that says they are the same hill.

Moroni buried a set of gold plates in the Hill Cumorah containing the sacred history of his people (W of M 1:1–11; Morm. 6:6; Moro. 10:1–2)