Canonical Differences: LDS v Apocalrock

[_sock puppet]

Nightlion,

You recently posted about the nature of god, at odds with LDS teachings.

I am curious what is in the Apocalrock canon that is not in the LDS canon, and vice versa.

What is the Apocalrock teachings on polygamy, D&C sec 132, Jacob 2, etc?

What ordinances, if any, are necessary for salvation?

Can anyone perform them?

What is the Apocalrock teachings on the nature of god?

What about the LoF?

How about the PoGP? Is it scripture?

[_moksha]

In terms of geologic symbolism, it seems that the LDS Church has focused on the micro level of outcroppings with the seer stone and Adam-ondi-Ahman, while the Apocalrock has tacked the macro level with the Wasatch Range of the Rocky Mountains. Both seem of value.

[_sock puppet]

Bump for the resident MDB prophet, Nightlion.

[_Nightlion]

Bump for the resident MDB prophet, Nightlion.

Sorry there good bud I just now saw this. My canon is the LDS standard works.

My understanding comes from being led and taught of God
laid over my exhaustive comprehension of the scripture. I really own scripture in my heart. I can't remember most things in life and yet I always have a ready scripture at hand.

When I start to ponder something I get underpinnings towards a likely conclusion from hither and thither where LDS minds just can't see and will not follow.

It is no longer possible for anyone living upon the planet to get the gospel right. Mostly because we drive cars and all that pertains to their use. So you might as well just forget about it....lol

But miracles still happen and if you insist on repenting of and forsaking the pride of the human mind inquire more perfectly and we shall see.

In Zion we need to see the fruits of repentance before any ordinance is administered.............fat chance of that.

But then anyone can at anytime and in whatsoever circumstance repent and all the better when the Lord draws them to it and they are fearless to see it to the end. Sort of like when Moses took it into his heart to see the burning bush. Is there another Moses handy......I thought not.

God is an eternal being and we are not of his kind or order although he chose to make us in his own likeness and image. Hence the overpowering pride of the human mind. He is our Father like he is the Father of all things. Only in the gospel covenant and the ratification of the promise of the Father in the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost are we conceived and do we begin to become the sons and daughters of God.

God's nature is to do all things for love and joy to abound.
Failing a nurturing childhood since he is without father and withou mother having neither beginning of days or end of years he seeks to give himself a therapy of childhood nurture in the Christ turn of the one eternal round. Since that always turns out badly he can be touchy and even vengeful in the full fury of his wrath come up in his face at times. He knows who he is and comprehends that his glory, might, honor and holiness is sacrosanct to the well being and vitality of all his creation. So he is fierce to defend and keep perfect all of it against the wickedness of human pride.

Yet he is fearless to allow humans to abide and seeks meekly to guide them to a greater soul and is much thrilled when one comes unto him with full purpose of heart to be made anew after the power and sanctity of the atonement and name of Christ.

But me personally, I despair of any human salvation. I just do not see it happening. Not in this generation for sure. I guess previous times and the coming age will see to some few saints. sigh

Maybe you did not catch me at the best of times Sock Puppet. I am going down with the dinosaurs if you have not noticed.

[_sock puppet]

Bump for the resident MDB prophet, Nightlion.

Sorry there good bud I just now saw this. My canon is the LDS standard works.

My understanding comes from being led and taught of God
laid over my exhaustive comprehension of the scripture. I really own scripture in my heart. I can't remember most things in life and yet I always have a ready scripture at hand.

When I start to ponder something I get underpinnings towards a likely conclusion from hither and thither where LDS minds just can't see and will not follow.

It is no longer possible for anyone living upon the planet to get the gospel right. Mostly because we drive cars and all that pertains to their use. So you might as well just forget about it....lol

But miracles still happen and if you insist on repenting of and forsaking the pride of the human mind inquire more perfectly and we shall see.

In Zion we need to see the fruits of repentance before any ordinance is administered.............fat chance of that.

But then anyone can at anytime and in whatsoever circumstance repent and all the better when the Lord draws them to it and they are fearless to see it to the end. Sort of like when Moses took it into his heart to see the burning bush. Is there another Moses handy......I thought not.

God is an eternal being and we are not of his kind or order although he chose to make us in his own likeness and image. Hence the overpowering pride of the human mind. He is our Father like he is the Father of all things. Only in the gospel covenant and the ratification of the promise of the Father in the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost are we conceived and do we begin to become the sons and daughters of God.

God's nature is to do all things for love and joy to abound.
Failing a nurturing childhood since he is without father and withou mother having neither beginning of days or end of years he seeks to give himself a therapy of childhood nurture in the Christ turn of the one eternal round. Since that always turns out badly he can be touchy and even vengeful in the full fury of his wrath come up in his face at times. He knows who he is and comprehends that his glory, might, honor and holiness is sacrosanct to the well being and vitality of all his creation. So he is fierce to defend and keep perfect all of it against the wickedness of human pride.

Yet he is fearless to allow humans to abide and seeks meekly to guide them to a greater soul and is much thrilled when one comes unto him with full purpose of heart to be made anew after the power and sanctity of the atonement and name of Christ.

But me personally, I despair of any human salvation. I just do not see it happening. Not in this generation for sure. I guess previous times and the coming age will see to some few saints. sigh

Maybe you did not catch me at the best of times Sock Puppet. I am going down with the dinosaurs if you have not noticed.

I admit to a strange comfort when reading what you write and say. Of course, I think it might be tapping into that same, universal human emotional need for which mankind has sought 'spiritual' teachings.

Even though your writings are laced with heavy despair (hell, fire and brimstone, almost), they ring much more true than the television evangelists, including those on the airways during the first weekends in April and October. Perhaps the part of religious preaching that harkens to the notion that we are nothing and insignificant (by comparison to an almighty) has not been, for me, so grandiose and self-indulgent seeming as the flip side of the religious preaching coin: that we are uber special beings (such as the premise out of which the universe fine-tuning notion can be appealing).

In any event, thank you, Nightlion. You might not be a cookie-munching, Pepsi-swigging salesman ("1-2-3, let's go shopping"). Indeed, you hoe much more closely to the model of Old Testament prophets than any that have claimed the title as part of the LDS movement. Keep up the good fight!

[_Nightlion]

I admit to a strange comfort when reading what you write and say. Of course, I think it might be tapping into that same, universal human emotional need for which mankind has sought 'spiritual' teachings.

Even though your writings are laced with heavy despair (hell, fire and brimstone, almost), they ring much more true than the television evangelists, including those on the airways during the first weekends in April and October. Perhaps the part of religious preaching that harkens to the notion that we are nothing and insignificant (by comparison to an almighty) has not been, for me, so grandiose and self-indulgent seeming as the flip side of the religious preaching coin: that we are uber special beings (such as the premise out of which the universe fine-tuning notion can be appealing).

In any event, thank you, Nightlion. You might not be a cookie-munching, Pepsi-swigging salesman ("1-2-3, let's go shopping"). Indeed, you hoe much more closely to the model of Old Testament prophets than any that have claimed the title as part of the LDS movement. Keep up the good fight!

On my day off, today, I went out from The Apocalrock Visitor Center to find a bolt and wing-nut for my tripod. The sun was unusually bright through the clouds. It was similar to the light of an eclipse only brighter. Most of the valley was in shadow but this effect seemed to follow me for an hour or more. A strange comfort of sorts.

[_Nightlion]

This is unsettling. First thing opening my door this morning is the same effect shining upon me from the Sun which dogged me yesterday. There was halo around the sun as well like in my avatar.
My Apocalrock dream of more than thirty years ago only began to come true in the last five years. Later I had a dream about various halos around the Sun and nuclear bombs going off.

It makes sense that portentious dreams would be for a generation of time. You do not want to dream something like that and have it fall upon you the next day. Such was my anxiety after the nuclear bombs dream. How do you not? My wife kids me about that still.
I was thinking of moving to Mona, Utah. lol Didn't, instead moved smack dab in the middle of Salt Lake Valley........whew! That was right before the capitulation of the Soviet Union.