William Schryver Published?

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
_Madison54
_Emeritus
Posts: 1382
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:37 pm

William Schryver Published?

Post by _Madison54 »

In reading over on the other board, I keep reading hints about Schryver's paper being published. Is that going to happen? Does he have more than one paper they are referring to? Just curious....

Here's just one of the references (posted yesterday):
And, please inform us if or when your highly anticipated papers will be published. I, for one, am looking forward to them (I have an emailed copy of one of the papers from way back, but I have yet to open it for fear of inadvertently blurting out some of the contents--my not reading it may prove useful if some of my work ends up matches yours, because it will mean that we arrived as some of the same conclusions independently, thus confirming each other). :good:

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


Schryver's post yesterday (referring to this board):
Oddly enough, however, the mob is motivated to serve me in the same manner they do my august group of professor friends notwithstanding I have no letters after my name and have done little more, to date, than threaten to publish academic articles detailing my research and findings. I suspect this has given many observers pause to wonder -- what exactly does the mob fear so much in what they think I might say that they have worked so tirelessly to suppress it and to otherwise discredit me in advance of any putative publication they fail to prevent?
_consiglieri
_Emeritus
Posts: 6186
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:47 pm

Re: William Schryver Published?

Post by _consiglieri »

We are afraid of Will Schryver.

Very afraid.

Signed,

The Mob
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
_Bret Ripley
_Emeritus
Posts: 1542
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:53 am

Re: William Schryver Published?

Post by _Bret Ripley »

I may be wrong, but I don't think I know anyone who doesn't want to see his Mt. Doom piece published.
_Kevin Graham
_Emeritus
Posts: 13037
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:44 pm

Re: William Schryver Published?

Post by _Kevin Graham »

We've been begging him to publish something and he knows it. His failure to do so probably has more to do with his own fear if having to stick to a position and being held accountable for it.
_Madison54
_Emeritus
Posts: 1382
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:37 pm

Re: William Schryver Published?

Post by _Madison54 »

Kevin Graham wrote:We've been begging him to publish something and he knows it. His failure to do so probably has more to do with his own fear if having to stick to a position and being held accountable for it.

Interesting.

I found Wade Englund's comment to be a bit strange. He's got Schryver's paper, but hasn't read it? Do you think even the apologists don't take him seriously?
_DrW
_Emeritus
Posts: 7222
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:57 am

Re: William Schryver Published?

Post by _DrW »

Schryver the Unpublished wrote:Oddly enough, however, the mob is motivated to serve me in the same manner they do my august group of professor friends notwithstanding I have no letters after my name and have done little more, to date, than threaten to publish academic articles detailing my research and findings. I suspect this has given many observers pause to wonder -- what exactly does the mob fear so much in what they think I might say that they have worked so tirelessly to suppress it and to otherwise discredit me in advance of any putative publication they fail to prevent?


Will Schryver,

As far as I know, nobody here is trying to suppress your work. Just the opposite; there have been any number of posts and comments on this board supporting publication of your "game changer". Several on this board have even asked you directly when you intend to publish your work, and have urged you to do so.

You yourself have been referring to the imminent publication of this work for more than a year. Some here are beginning to dispair that it might never see the light of day.

The general opinion here is that your "game changer" will be yet another pseudo-scholarly apologetic embarrassment for the LDS Church, and folks here can't wait to see it. In fact, there are probably few communities on the planet where your work is more keenly anticipated than this one.

Again, Will, the fact is that none of the critics here are trying to suppress you work. To state otherwise, as you have done, is to demonstrate, yet again, your overblown sense of the significance of what you do, and the depth of your need to see yourself as persecuted.

Truth be told and based on past non-performance, I predict another long delay in publication. Given the current standing of classic FARMS apologetics, my guess is that nobody who has seen it wants to touch your opus with a ten foot pole.
Last edited by Guest on Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:15 am, edited 2 times in total.
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."

DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
_Kishkumen
_Emeritus
Posts: 21373
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:00 pm

Re: William Schryver Published?

Post by _Kishkumen »

I have stated repeatedly that I would like to see Will Schryver's work published. I have no idea who this supposed "mob" is. I know there are those who disapprove of the Church publishing his work because of his obvious misogyny. Since the Interpreter is not the LDS Church, nor does it have an institutional reputation to protect, I think that this blog would be an excellent venue for Schryver to share his findings with the world.

What is holding him back?

Not us, certainly.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
_3sheets2thewind
_Emeritus
Posts: 1451
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:28 pm

Re: William Schryver Published?

Post by _3sheets2thewind »

How does someone with ZERO academic credentials publish an academic paper?

It would seem William could have published his work.

The Church does not own Williams paper, and given the paper is "academic" FAIRUSE would apply and thus no legitimate copyright issues..
Last edited by Guest on Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
_consiglieri
_Emeritus
Posts: 6186
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:47 pm

Re: William Schryver Published?

Post by _consiglieri »

The only thing that got Will held back from publishing under the auspices of MI were his own words on this message board that somehow found their way into the hands of the powers that be at BYU.

That is, unless I am remembering things incorrectly.

Something having to do with Ms. Jack, I think . . .


All the Best!

--Consiglieri

P.S. One would think the Interpreter might be a more amenable venue.
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
_Mayan Elephant
_Emeritus
Posts: 2408
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:56 pm

Re: William Schryver Published?

Post by _Mayan Elephant »

3sheets2thewind wrote:How does someone with ZERO academic credentials publish an academic paper?


when you get the answer, i am sure greg smith would like you to share it with him.

also, we need to settle on what it means to publish before we can really answer the question.
"Rocks don't speak for themselves" is an unfortunate phrase to use in defense of a book produced by a rock actually 'speaking' for itself... (I have a Question, 5.15.15)
Post Reply