speaking of Mormons

[_maklelan]

My thought is, that you can not request something for an adult. The Church seems to operate a bit in the same way, records for adults are not moved or otherwise edit unless at the request of the adult the record is about.

The thing is, it's a mistake. The identification of a mistake is not something restricted to the legal representative.

[_madeleine]

My thought is, that you can not request something for an adult. The Church seems to operate a bit in the same way, records for adults are not moved or otherwise edit unless at the request of the adult the record is about.

I've moved three times as an adult, without a thought for telling the Mormons I've done so. Mysteriously, the records that the LDS church has move with me. (OK, not so mysteriously, I'm 99% certain that is the work of my dear LDS parents.)

For example, how did my daughter's records end up where I live now in the first place? I never requested that they follow us, but here they are!

[_cafe crema]

My thought is, that you can not request something for an adult. The Church seems to operate a bit in the same way, records for adults are not moved or otherwise edit unless at the request of the adult the record is about.

I've moved three times as an adult, without a thought for telling the Mormons I've done so. Mysteriously, the records that the LDS church has move with me. (OK, not so mysteriously, I'm 99% certain that is the work of my dear LDS parents.)

For example, how did my daughter's records end up where I live now in the first place? I never requested that they follow us, but here they are!

It's sad that because you had her blessed your daughter will be stalked by the LDS church for the rest of her life.

[_madeleine]

It's sad that because you had her blessed your daughter will be stalked by the LDS church for the rest of her life.

When she was younger, and I was an atheist with a fierce mama bear protection of her, including from belief in God, it made me more angry than you can imagine.

Now she is an adult, making her own choices, events like this just make me wonder if/when it will ever stop. I mean, it has been DECADES since I last participated in anything remotely Mormon, and she has never participated in anything Mormon. It's become kind of comical, in the way a fool is comical. A denial of reality that never ceases.

The people at the door last night saying it's been a while since they had seen her, confirmed the denial of reality, and is why I felt somewhat amused.

I see they weren't lying, but making assumptions based on a beauracracy. That's understandable.

[_Fence Sitter]

Hi, Fence Sitter. I peeked in on the forum to see if I could find any information about an increase in the number of missionaries, at least in my neck of the woods, and happened upon your comment here in Madeleine's thread.

I've seen a lot of missionaries lately, more than I've ever noticed before. Is the increase worldwide? Nationwide? Specific to the mission field in North America?

The weather here has been abysmal. Every time I see them out on bikes in the cold rain I wish they were home with their families, warm.

KA

Hello KA!! I hope all is well.

You are missed! Pop in more often, for our enjoyment if nothing else.

I don't know specifics about where the new missionaries are being sent. I think the numbers have increased by 10 percent or more since the announcement regarding the age change, but I don't have the numbers at hand. I would expect that the increase is being assigned across the board as much as possible, but that due to the added problems in preparing for a foreign missions (pasports, visas and so on) we are probably seeing a greater increase here in the US than anywhere else. All speculation on my part.

[_maklelan]

I don't know specifics about where the new missionaries are being sent. I think the numbers have increased by 10 percent or more since the announcement regarding the age change, but I don't have the numbers at hand. I would expect that the increase is being assigned across the board as much as possible, but that due to the added problems in preparing for a foreign missions (pasports, visas and so on) we are probably seeing a greater increase here in the US than anywhere else. All speculation on my part.

As of last month, there were 64,373 missionaries. 58 new missions were announced here.

[_cafe crema]

It's sad that because you had her blessed your daughter will be stalked by the LDS church for the rest of her life.

When she was younger, and I was an atheist with a fierce mama bear protection of her, including from belief in God, it made me more angry than you can imagine.

Now she is an adult, making her own choices, events like this just make me wonder if/when it will ever stop. I mean, it has been DECADES since I last participated in anything remotely Mormon, and she has never participated in anything Mormon. It's become kind of comical, in the way a fool is comical. A denial of reality that never ceases.

The people at the door last night saying it's been a while since they had seen her, confirmed the denial of reality, and is why I felt somewhat amused.

I see they weren't lying, but making assumptions based on a beauracracy. That's understandable.

They weren't making assumptions based on a bureaucracy, no one in the local ward had ever seen her, so when "stopped by because they said they hadn't seen her in a while" they were lying whether they were speaking for themselves or for the ward. Will it ever stop? I don't see why it would, your daughter has never been a member and for eighteen years they have treated her as though she is. For eighteen years they have treated her as a member, is there any other church on earth that hounds non members for decades?

[_madeleine]

They weren't making assumptions based on a bureaucracy, no one in the local ward had ever seen her, so when "stopped by because they said they hadn't seen her in a while" they were lying whether they were speaking for themselves or for the ward. Will it ever stop? I don't see why it would, your daughter has never been a member and for eighteen years they have treated her as though she is. For eighteen years they have treated her as a member, is there any other church on earth that hounds non members for decades?

I'm certain they don't view themselves as lying. I'm certain I still don't view the time with them as completely honest. I can't say it was a pleasant experience. But I feel the same way about sales people at my door, which is the main reason I don't answer.

As I said, at one time the deceptions would have launched me into anger. Mormons do what they do and for the most part leave us alone. Now and then they insert themselves into our lives, and I can be amused, creeped out or angry, but its like having those feelings for a rock. Which isn't penetrated by feelings or even aware of them. Mormons could care less how others feel about their proselyting efforts, is my experience. So, moving on. :) The probabilities based on time and numbers, dictates they won't be back on my doorstep again for a while. And the probabilities are high we wont answer the door when they do. Meanwhile, life goes on.

[_RockSlider]

Meanwhile, life goes on.

And that 16million member church (which your daughter is numbered among) continues to grow at a faith promoting rate!

[_madeleine]

Meanwhile, life goes on.

And that 16million member church (which your daughter is numbered among) continues to grow at a faith promoting rate!

Numbers that only have meaning to the faithful. Means nothing to me.