City Creek - Get over IT

[_Bazooka]

The homeless can choose not to be homeless. No one just becomes "homeless." People have family and friends and priesthood leaders. If they exhaust their resources because they're alcoholics/addicts, then that's their fault.

beanboots, which one (or more) of the four stated missions of the Church does the City Creek Mall help move forward?
1. Preach The Gospel
2. Perfect The Saints
3. Redeem The Dead
4. Help The Poor And Needy

If none of them, why would the Church pour $billions of donated funds (or the proceeds of donated funds) down a single, non profit making venture outside the living quarters of the Prophet?

[_Rollo Tomasi]

Then they should have just built a park -- a helluva lot cheaper and just as "inspirational."

Yeah, but homeless people hang around in parks. Can't have that.

No problem -- the Brethren can just dispatch their security thugs to get rid of them, like they do with the Main Street Plaza.

[_Bob Loblaw]

I apologize to the extent that I can for that situation. Does he still need help? I'd be happy to send a care package or help with a utility bill.

You don't need to apologize. You aren't responsible, but please don't assume that the church's welfare system works the way you think it does.

[Guest]

Again. I want proof that anyone in Salt Lake has ever been turned away from Welfare Square.

Again. Anyone who would make such a hurtful, and ignorant statement about the homeless should be ashamed to call themselves a Christian / Mormon, but we all know that self awareness isn't exactly Mormonism's strong point. But if you really want specific examples, there was a wonderful story posted here a couple christmases ago about the church buying up an old motel and throwing everyone in it on the street. I'm sure if you're REALLY interested I could go back and find it for you, but we both know you aren't.

[_zeezrom]

I'm stuck on the comment in the OP about immodest clothing. Are you referring to an underwear store?

Does Beehive clothing sell immodest clothing?

[_beanboots]

The homeless can choose not to be homeless. No one just becomes "homeless." People have family and friends and priesthood leaders. If they exhaust their resources because they're alcoholics/addicts, then that's their fault.

beanboots, which one (or more) of the four stated missions of the Church does the City Creek Mall help move forward?
1. Preach The Gospel
2. Perfect The Saints
3. Redeem The Dead
4. Help The Poor And Needy

If none of them, why would the Church pour $billions of donated funds (or the proceeds of donated funds) down a single, non profit making venture outside the living quarters of the Prophet?

First of all, the Church's mission is three-fold. But I will briefly address all four of your concerns.

1. The Church can preach the gospel in Temple Square. Tourists will go for a stroll after they leave the mall.
2. The Saints will be perfected because employment opportunities are offered, they have the opportunity to buy gifts for their fellow men in the spirit of giving (perhaps to the homeless?), and they have the ability to appreciate the beauty of downtown Salt Lake.
3. The money from the mall will help to pay for genealogical research.
4. Individual Latter-Day Saints can help the poor and needy. The Church, with the money it gets from the mall, can help enhance and enrich its welfare programs.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

The homeless can choose not to be homeless. No one just becomes "homeless." People have family and friends and priesthood leaders. If they exhaust their resources because they're alcoholics/addicts, then that's their fault.

Sounds like someone needs to go back and re-read King Benjamin's discourse, particularly his words in Mosiah 4:16-26.

[_beanboots]

I'm stuck on the comment in the OP about immodest clothing. Are you referring to an underwear store?

Does Beehive clothing sell immodest clothing?

Forever 21 and Gap, I think, have really short shorts or something. I just remember the hooligan brigade talking about immodest clothing and alcohol being sold at City Creek.

[_Molok]

Apparently, "perfecting the saints" = "make money." And people say the Mormon church is more of a corporation than church, HA!

[_beanboots]

I apologize to the extent that I can for that situation. Does he still need help? I'd be happy to send a care package or help with a utility bill.

You don't need to apologize. You aren't responsible, but please don't assume that the church's welfare system works the way you think it does.

I beg your pardon, but I know how Church Welfare works.