One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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I was recently forwarded a paper written by a defender of the LDS church, which I posted here for convenient access: http://unpluggedmusings.blogspot.com/20 ... ution.html

He claims to have found some kind of gaping hole in the theory of evolution. I'm no expert but even with my limited familiarity with evolution, I'm pretty sure at least a few of his premises are wrong. He seems very confident that no one has ever refuted his theory, so I thought I'd submit it to the greater minds here for comment. I'll make sure he can come here to read any feedback/criticisms. Hell, maybe he will even sign up and defend himself.
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Re: One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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I have no problem with the view that Chromosomal Evolution may not be fact. To be a fact, it must be observable. However, there is an overwhelming amount of evidence that indeed it is true, so it is a very solid theory. I have little tolerance for view that there is no basis for it or that it there is no proof it is true. If that were so, then I'd like to critics of Chromosomal Evolution to produce a pre-Cambrian chicken. If they can do that, then I'll be happy (as would most evolutionists) to reconsider my view that Chromosomal Evolution is true.
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Re: One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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His opening discussion of fact and theory is banal. He then states, "Who started the controversy over Evolution? No one knows."

That's how far I got.

Anyway, the question is an interesting one your friend and anyone else interested can read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Remarka ... 0812968492

The controversies surrounding evolution were fueled with academic prejudice, not merely Christian ideology.

No one has likely "refuted" his theory because who is going to take it seriously in the first place? At any rate, there are several here who may be glad to pick it apart if they feel inclined. It would be interesting to see if your friend will be willing to defend it here.
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Re: One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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That is why Noah did not have to take hundreds of breeds of dogs with him in the Ark.

Our mopologist finds the evidence for evolution unconvincing in its particulars but accepts the historicity of the Noachian flood.

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Re: One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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Before one tries to comment on some aspect of science, they should at least understand the basics of that aspect of science. The author of that whatever it was clearly does not. Some pretty silly stuff there.

To employ a useful expression from one of Darth's recent posts, the author wasn't even wrong.

Seems like the following, which is adapted from "You are not even wrong" on the rational wiki, would be an appropriate response :

What he wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in his rambling, incoherent theory was he even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought, or evidence that he had the slightest idea what he was talking about. Those on this board who were gullible enough to read it are is now dumber for having done so. He gets no points, and may God have mercy on his soul.


As for picking it apart, if the author would care to come on this board with his theory, I am confident that there are any number of folks here who could make short work of it. To do so one would need no more than the information contributed on this subject in earlier threads on this board.

I would even bet that Ceeboo could put on his "evolutionist hat" and dispatch the "theory" fairly quickly.
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Re: One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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Evolution is true, just not "some" of the theory's behind it, such as Man having "descended" from Apes, which by the way is what previous LDS prophets when they condemned Evolution were primarily referring to.

There was evolution with man, but not from one species to another.
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Since I have no interest to please the academy allow me to nuggetize this fella's idea.. If a mutation occurs it must pair with the identical mutation in the sexual
Partner to survive.........this is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution is a croc of lies and banal conclusions.
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Re: One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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DrW wrote:I would even bet that Ceeboo could put on his "evolutionist hat" and dispatch the "theory" fairly quickly.

I like his words.

... and ... (but?)
I hate his avatar.

Even it is 1000th more bearable than subgenius' one.
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Re: One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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Nightlion wrote:Since I have no interest to please the academy allow me to nuggetize this fella's idea.. If a mutation occurs it must pair with the identical mutation in the sexual
Partner to survive.........this is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution is a croc of lies and banal conclusions.


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Re: One Mopologist's Debunking of Evolution

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Nightlion,

See Macroevolution and the observed evidences for it.
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