You're right, but it does reveal your agreement that under each man's "version" (your word) both Joseph and Bennett had sexual intercourse with multiple women to whom they were not legally and lawfully wedded.
I don't think it does. The evidence point to Joseph Smith and Bennett going in opposite directions on how they handled plural marriage.
But both men included sexual intercourse with multiple women to whom they were not legally and lawfully wedded. You've already agreed with this point.
This is a pretty obvious cop-out from a discussion where you've been cornered.
Not at all. I've already answered your question directly elsewhere.
Actually, you haven't, but I think your evasive answers are good enough to conclude that both Bennett's and Joseph's "versions" included sexual intercourse with multiple women to whom they were legally and lawfully wedded.
I merely want to see if you'll answer mine here and now. The fact that you're unwilling to discuss plural marriage in context proves that you are the one who's cornered.
I'm happy to discuss in any context you like. There is plenty of evidence, including pro-LDS sources, for Joseph have polyandrous wives. There is also evidence that Joseph married the wives of men who were then on Church missions.
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I am still waiting for him to provide evidence that Bennett had sex with his girlfriends.
Are you saying Bennett never begged forgiveness multiple times on this matter and was never expelled from the Church after seeing that his attempts at repentance were false? Proof left to the student.
So your argument is that Bennett was a repentant adulterer but Joseph Smith was an unrepentant adulterer? That I might buy.
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There is plenty of evidence, including pro-LDS sources, for Joseph have polyandrous wives. There is also evidence that Joseph married the wives of men who were then on Church missions.
If so, then why did it take you so long to state it? Now are you going to answer the Bible question or not?
Are you saying Bennett never begged forgiveness multiple times on this matter and was never expelled from the Church after seeing that his attempts at repentance were false? Proof left to the student.
So your argument is that Bennett was a repentant adulterer but Joseph Smith was an unrepentant adulterer? That I might buy.
That seems to be your unsupported argument. Not mine. Did or did not John C Bennett help to build and frequent a brothel in Nauvoo?
bcspace wrote:I think it more likely he claimed his version of plural marriage was better than Joseph Smith's because you could actually have sex with your other wives in his.
This is another yellow journaltastical claim by someone who is hostile to John C. Bennett. John C. Bennett neither cohabitated with his plural wives, nor had any children with them. So there is no evidence that he had sex with them.
Also, there is a lot of presentism in this unfounded accusation. Census data from the 1800's show that it was normal in John C. Bennett's time for men to marry grown women.
That seems to be your unsupported argument. Not mine. Did or did not John C Bennett help to build and frequent a brothel in Nauvoo?
Is there any evidence he cohabited with the women in the brothel?
Where are the children?
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This is another yellow journaltastical claim by someone who is hostile to John C. Bennett. John C. Bennett neither cohabitated with his plural wives, nor had any children with them. So there is no evidence that he had sex with them.
Also, there is a lot of presentism in this unfounded accusation. Census data from the 1800's show that it was normal in John C. Bennett's time for men to marry grown women.
But you agree that Bennett's version of plural marriage was different than Joseph Smith's right? This is why RT's trying to establish a basis on at least one or a few of the women Joseph Smith is sealed to having sex with him doesn't work because even Darth J can justify it.
