LDSFAQ.....why won't you answer my question????

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
_cwald
_Emeritus
Posts: 4443
Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:53 pm

Re: LDSFAQ.....why won't you answer my question????

Post by _cwald »

bcspace wrote:The curse of Cain remains doctrine. For example:



So you don't believe and reject the recent essay the church published on LDS.org in regards to race and priesthood that specifically says the curse of Cain/ dark skin teachings were not doctrine?
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby

Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson
_ZelphtheGreat
_Emeritus
Posts: 1316
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:33 am

Re: LDSFAQ.....why won't you answer my question????

Post by _ZelphtheGreat »

- Prophet Brigham Young, Brigham Young Addresses, Feb. 5, 1852, LDS historical department; online at http://www.geocities.com/solmes.geo/a... and http://home.teleport.com/~packham/byo...

“Cain slew his brother.... and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and tehn another curse is pronounced upon the same race – that they should be the ‘servant of servants,’ and they will be, until that curse is removed; and the Abolitionists cannot help it, nor in the least alter that decree. How long is that race to endure the dreadful curse that is upon them? That curse will remain upon them, and they never can hold the Priesthood or share in it until all the other descendants of Adam have received the promises and enjoyed the blessings of the Priesthood and the keys thereof. Until the last ones of the residue of Adam’s children are brought up to that favorable position, the children of Cain cannot receive the first ordinances of the Priesthood. They were the first that were cursed, and they will be the last from whom the curse will be removed. When the residue of the family of Adam come up and receive their blessings, then the curse will be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will receive blessings in like proportion.”

So spacekadet, was Brigham leading the church astray? Preaching false doctrine? Preaching the doctrins of men, mingled with scripture?

Or was he just a bigoted, dirty old lying sack of horse crap?
“If paying tithing means that you can’t pay for water or electricity, pay tithing. If paying tithing means that you can’t pay your rent, pay tithing. Even if paying tithing means that you don’t have enough money to feed your family, pay tithing." Ensign/2012/12
_sunstoned
_Emeritus
Posts: 1670
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:12 am

Re: LDSFAQ.....why won't you answer my question????

Post by _sunstoned »

ZelphtheGreat wrote:
So spacekadet, was Brigham leading the church astray? Preaching false doctrine? Preaching the doctrins of men, mingled with scripture?

Or was he just a bigoted, dirty old lying sack of horse s***?


I'm going to help bcspace out here, because this is kind of a trick question. The answer is all of the above.
_bcspace
_Emeritus
Posts: 18534
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:48 pm

Re: LDSFAQ.....why won't you answer my question????

Post by _bcspace »

So you don't believe and reject the recent essay the church published on LDS.org in regards to race and priesthood that specifically says the curse of Cain/ dark skin teachings were not doctrine?


There is no conflict between the new topical addition and the verses I referenced.
Machina Sublime
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
_bcspace
_Emeritus
Posts: 18534
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:48 pm

Re: LDSFAQ.....why won't you answer my question????

Post by _bcspace »

So spacekadet, was Brigham leading the church astray? Preaching false doctrine? Preaching the doctrins of men, mingled with scripture?

Or was he just a bigoted, dirty old lying sack of horse crap?


Do you have any actual references?
Machina Sublime
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
Post Reply