New Essay: Book of Mormon And DNA Studies

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New Essay: Book of Mormon And DNA Studies

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I just saw this posted on NOM but haven't had a chance to read through it yet:

https://www.lds.org/topics/book-of-morm ... s?lang=eng
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Madison54 wrote:I just saw this posted on NOM but haven't had a chance to read through it yet:

https://www.lds.org/topics/book-of-morm ... s?lang=eng



So the limited geography theory is now LDS Doctrine?
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Thanks, Prez Newsroom, for teaching me genetics!
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The Book of Mormon provides little direct information about cultural contact between the peoples it describes and others who may have lived nearby. Consequently, most early Latter-day Saints assumed that Near Easterners or West Asians like Jared, Lehi, Mulek, and their companions were the first or the largest or even the only groups to settle the Americas.


WTF ...Most early Latter-day Saints assumed???? Ahhh... they freaking assumed this because that is what the freaking book claimed...

2 Nephi 1:9 Wherefore, I, Lehi, have obtained a promise, that inasmuch as those whom the Lord God shall bring out of the land of Jerusalem shall keep his commandments, they shall prosper upon the face of this land; and they shall be kept from all other nations, that they may possess this land unto themselves. And if it so be that they shall keep his commandments they shall be blessed upon the face of this land, and there shall be none to molest them, nor to take away the land of their inheritance; and they shall dwell safely forever.
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Re: New Essay: Book of Mormon And DNA Studies

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Craig, that pretty much blows a whole in the rest of the article doesn't it?
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Re: New Essay: Book of Mormon And DNA Studies

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Don't forget verse 8!

2 Nephi 1:8 wrote:And behold, it is wisdom that this land should be kept as yet from the knowledge of other nations; for behold, many nations would overrun the land, that there would be no place for an inheritance.
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Re: New Essay: Book of Mormon And DNA Studies

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Craig Paxton wrote:
The Book of Mormon provides little direct information about cultural contact between the peoples it describes and others who may have lived nearby. Consequently, most early Latter-day Saints assumed that Near Easterners or West Asians like Jared, Lehi, Mulek, and their companions were the first or the largest or even the only groups to settle the Americas.


Ahhh...Most early Latter-day Saints assumed... Ahhh... they freaking assumed this because that is what the freaking book claimed...

2 Nephi 1:9 Wherefore, I, Lehi, have obtained a promise, that inasmuch as those whom the Lord God shall bring out of the land of Jerusalem shall keep his commandments, they shall prosper upon the face of this land; and they shall be kept from all other nations, that they may possess this land unto themselves. And if it so be that they shall keep his commandments they shall be blessed upon the face of this land, and there shall be none to molest them, nor to take away the land of their inheritance; and they shall dwell safely forever.



"... that they may possess this land unto themselves..."

Could "this land" mean just the land that Team Lehi occupied and that the rest of the continent were occupied by non-selectees?
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Re: New Essay: Book of Mormon And DNA Studies

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Madison54 wrote:I just saw this posted on NOM but haven't had a chance to read through it yet:

https://www.lds.org/topics/book-of-morm ... s?lang=eng


Thanks Madison! I'm trying to get through it, but it's hard with all my involuntary eye rolling.
I hope Simon Southerton has a chance to respond. I'm very much looking forward to that.
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I can't wait for Simon Southerton to respond to this new essay -- he's gonna tear it apart.
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:I can't wait for Simon Southerton to respond to this new essay -- he's gonna tear it apart.



Are you sure? I mean they had marbles in a jar.....
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