Do any REAL Truly Believing Mormons Post Here?

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moinmoin wrote:I'm a yes to all of the items on your list. Released as a bishop a little over a year ago, too.

Why do I lurk here? I find it interesting to read, although I admittedly agree with very little that is said here. One can sometimes get more information on certain topics and perspectives here than over at MADD/MDDD, because of the overly-stringent moderation.

Welcome.

Glad you spoke up. (First post from you that I have seen.) Hope you stick around.

Would enjoy hearing your perspective on issues that might interest you.
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Consig?

Wayfarer?

mercy&grace?

Ldsfaqs?
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I match the list.... for the most part anyway. Life circumstances prevent the current perfection anyway.
However, I didn't go on a Mission. Though most used to always believe I had.

And Bcspace isn't a liberal. Neither am I.
Consig also isn't a TBM.... He believes most anti-mormon views, while claiming to be TBM. Wolf in sheeps clothing.

I've also been anti-mormon/anti-religion/ex-mormon in the ignorance and prejudices of youth..... So, I know for sure who's telling the truth and who "perverts" it. I've been through all the stages of Faith from multiple perspectives and experiences.
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ldsfaqs wrote:I match the list.... for the most part anyway. Life circumstances prevent the current perfection anyway.
However, I didn't go on a Mission. Though most used to always believe I had.

And Bcspace isn't a liberal. Neither am I.
Consig also isn't a TBM.... He believes most anti-mormon views, while claiming to be TBM. Wolf in sheeps clothing.

I've also been anti-mormon/anti-religion/ex-mormon in the ignorance and prejudices of youth..... So, I know for sure who's telling the truth and who "perverts" it. I've been through all the stages of Faith.


Am I anti-Mormon?
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Tobin wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:I match the list.... for the most part anyway. Life circumstances prevent the current perfection anyway.
However, I didn't go on a Mission. Though most used to always believe I had.

And Bcspace isn't a liberal. Neither am I.
Consig also isn't a TBM.... He believes most anti-mormon views, while claiming to be TBM. Wolf in sheeps clothing.

I've also been anti-mormon/anti-religion/ex-mormon in the ignorance and prejudices of youth..... So, I know for sure who's telling the truth and who "perverts" it. I've been through all the stages of Faith.


Am I anti-Mormon?


From what I've noticed you seem all over the place, I have no idea how to classify you..... and I don't know you either.
Others are more clear however in their contempt of LDS and LDS subjects. You seem more open, I believe a recent change?
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ldsfaqs wrote:From what I've noticed you seem all over the place, I have no idea how to classify you..... and I don't know you either.
Others are more clear however in their contempt of LDS and LDS subjects. You seem more open, I believe a recent change?
I believe Mormonism may have a basis in fact. So I give them the benefit of the doubt when I can. I'm mostly interested in the truth (as I hope everyone in the forum would be as well). Since this is my approach, many of the critics on this board attack me. I have placed the more rabid ones (the "real" trolls on this forum) on ignore, which only improves this forum considerably in my view.
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Tobin wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:From what I've noticed you seem all over the place, I have no idea how to classify you..... and I don't know you either.
Others are more clear however in their contempt of LDS and LDS subjects. You seem more open, I believe a recent change?


I believe Mormonism may have a basis in fact. So I give them the benefit of the doubt when I can. I'm mostly interested in the truth (as I hope everyone in the forum would be as well). Since this is my approach, many of the critics on this board attack me. I have placed the more rabid ones (the "real" trolls on this forum) on ignore, which only improves this forum considerably in my view.


That's Tobin's view. Others may find themselves thinking that he is obsessed by his project of interpreting Mormonism in the light of an experience he once had in a locked New York apartment some years ago, when a 'being' appeared to him and told him not to do what he was planning to do, which was (Tobin tells us) something bad. Tobin thinks this person was some kind of space alien with superpowers, and he has concluded that beings like this gave us the idea of gods. (No, I am really not joking about this.)

Hence, when he says 'see and speak with God', he is not to be understood in the sense that most religious believers would understand the phrase. So far as can be ascertained, the supposed alien visitor gave him no message of religious significance, and has never been seen or heard of since.

Frankly, I don't think Tobin is entirely well. There are signs of an obsessive personality with a huge drive to be agreed with and not to be criticized or (heavens forbid!) laughed at. I'm glad I am unlikely ever to meet him in person.
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Craig Paxton wrote:There seem to be quite a few posters who claim to be true believer’s but the longer I post here, I’m discovering that none of them are traditional believers and in fact each seems to be a cafeteria Mormon who picks and chooses their Mormon beliefs in order to maintain belief in Mormon Inc.
So what I would like to know is if there are any real Mormon faithful that post here.

01. Full Tithe Payer.
02. Served Full Time Mission
03. Temple Marriage
04. Pray and Read Scriptures Daily
05. Temple Recommend Holder
06. Attend the Temple at least Monthly
07. Attend Church Weekly
08. Hold a Calling i.e. Teacher, Bishopric, Group Leadership, Relief Society, YMYW Presidency etc.

(by the way This used to be me)



If you meet or exceed these standards…you are a TBM…otherwise you just a pretender ...If you are here...identify yourself. You other pretenders, we know who you are...and no you don't qualify or meet this standard and only serve to defend Mormonism as pretenders of the faith.


Currently do all of these (4 and 6 not as often as specified).

I'm not a TBM in the bloggernacle/DAMU definition. I suppose I'm a "middle-way Mormon/Universalist." I post most often at staylds and as canard78 on MDDB (will posting here get me banned there)?

I have a fairly liberal branch I attend in UK and a good group of friends. I find positivity in my LDS experience despite not believing it to be the only true church.

Lots of NOMs could say yes to all 8, keeping the peace at home. Having said that, my wife stopped attending 3 years ago so I don't even do it for a pretence.
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Tobin wrote:I believe Mormonism may have a basis in fact. So I give them the benefit of the doubt when I can. I'm mostly interested in the truth (as I hope everyone in the forum would be as well). Since this is my approach, many of the critics on this board attack me. I have placed the more rabid ones (the "real" trolls on this forum) on ignore, which only improves this forum considerably in my view.


Tobin is not a "Truly Believing Mormon".

Tobin wrote:Ummm, tapirrider, if you aren't aware, let me make this perfectly clear. I don't care what the LDS Church's position is on such and such. I don't care what Joseph Smith said about such and such. And I don't care what other LDS leaders opinions were either. As far as I'm concerned, the LDS Church is a man-made organization of like-minded believers and that is it.
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