The Church is dishonest

[_DrW]

They're doing you a big favor. Now find a real university and appreciate that you've dodged a bullet.

I agree. I went to both BYU-I and BYU. I don't acknowledge either on my resume.

With her grades, she should be able to get a scholarship at a state school. It may hurt now, but she'll eventually realize that she dodged a bullet.

I absolutely agree. Two of my six kids went to BYU (against my better judgement) and the other 4 went to University of Washington. One of my BYU grads now freely admits that BYU was a mistake.

The other BYU grad's first BYU marriage ended when her BYU RM husband simply left her for the wife of an RM who lived two houses down, who left her BYU husband for him. Second BYU grad is happily re-married now to another RM, and still lives in Utah. She would love to move back to Washington State where she grew up and to be closer to the rest of her siblings, but she is stuck in the Utah vortex. Still, I think she would have a hard time admitting that BYU was a mistake, even if she realized it was true.

In the meantime, the U of W grads are all happily married to their original spouses and are earning, on average, more than 4 times what the BYU grads are earning.

You can see why I strongly agree with anyone who suggests that your daughter dodged a bullet. With her grades and test scores, she should be able get into a real school, and should do so without giving BYU a second thought.
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ETA: Just saw that your daughter was accepted to Notre Dame. Congratulations. She got into a real school, alright.

[_MrSimpleton]

Your daughter gets into a Top 25 University with scholarship and is rejected by a school that ranks 62...tell me again what the hell you are bitching about?

[_MrSimpleton]

readtoomuch, are you a troll i.e. readstoomuch from mddb?

Anyways, you current bitching about your daughter getting scholarship to Notre Dame, is what makes it so easy for LDS Apologist to say how pathetic and petty critics of the Church are.

[_readtoomuch]

I hear what you are saying about the bitching. But I attended BYU, my two oldest kids went and graduated from BYU. My younger kids watched them go off and graduate. So naturally they wanted from an early time in their life to go to BYU. She only applied to the other schools to have backups. Thankfully she did. At the end she is probably better off. But right now she is very disappointed. I am probably venting more than anything. I guess I am just at my wits end with the Church. I really appreciate everything everyone has said in response to my posting even if I disagree. that's why I like this place.

[_consiglieri]

I didn't attend much Seminary in my last year. However, I graduated fully by completing the course work, about one worksheet for each day missed. The worksheets were so easy an AP student such as her could have done a hundred of them in a week.

". . . such as she . . . "

(I got a 5 on my AP English test.)


All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_BartBurk]

You have no idea what you are talking about. I travel almost every week and she has no ride to seminary. It is amazing that she was accepted to Notre Dame with scholarships and 15 other Universities and yet is rejected from BYU for not completing seminary. In a day when the Mormon Church is losing so many of its youth, it is amazing that the BYU does what it does. No I believe the ST or BP or Seminary Teacher said something in their endorsements to hurt her chances. Yet she could have cranked out hundreds of lesson make ups but then that would require the approval of the CES department. They told us it would relagate the early morning program to a hybrid home study course. It is ok, she is a good Mormon and a wonderful person and she and my money will go to Notre Dame. I have taken all I can take by the SLCC. BYU doenst want smart bright kids to attend their universities, they only want minions without opinions...and also not gay, don't masturbate and don't watch porn.

I work at Notre Dame. The LDS students here seem to enjoy it. Then again after working at ND for 16 years I wound up converting from Mormonism to Catholicism. I hope she likes snow.

[Guest]

So your daughter is in Notre Dame instead of BYU? What's the problem here?

For students without a scholarship, ND is way more expensive than the BYU.

BYU students can take advantage of tithing subsidies. This is my monthly reminder to the world that tithing is not a charitable donation. Do you itemize the tithing? Well, that's between you and God. I personally think such itemizations are dishonest and cheat the government.

[_Molok]

So your daughter is in Notre Dame instead of BYU? What's the problem here?

For students without a scholarship, ND is way more expensive than the BYU.

BYU students can take advantage of tithing subsidies.

I never knew tithing subsidies were a thing, thanks for clearing that up.

[_zeezrom]

Okay bad wording on my part. Need to check my bags. No time to edit.

[_Bazooka]

I never knew tithing subsidies were a thing, thanks for clearing that up.

Usually you have to be a General Authority to get the benefit but BYU attracts some of what's left.