Kirby: Why I remain a Mormon despite faith?????s flaws

[_LittleNipper]

Kirby: Why I remain a Mormon despite faith’s flaws

This is true of most beliefs. It is more convenient to remain as one is than to seek something better. And when one comes to realize that "religion" for a believer is supposed to be about what God demands and not what we want, makes the entire matter rather curious. It is rather like saying, "I don't care what God expects or wishes, I'm happy with how I'd already doing it, and that is good enough for me..."

[_bcspace]

LOL! It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic bcspace. So heterosexual people deserve a larger piece "of the welfare pie" than homosexuals, why is that?

Because heterosexual marriages are the ideal that society favors, and so far homosexuality remains a simple lifestyle choice rather than something that would qualify for something like say, suspect classification.

[_mackay11]

LOL! It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic bcspace. So heterosexual people deserve a larger piece "of the welfare pie" than homosexuals, why is that?

Because heterosexual marriages are the ideal that society favors, and so far homosexuality remains a simple lifestyle choice rather than something that would qualify for something like say, suspect classification.

I'd get in trouble for saying this on MDDB, but you are a cretin and an embarrassment. I have to remind myself, as an active but moderate Mormon, that you vomit your personal prejudice onto the gospel of charity and universality. Then, like a mangy and inbred dog, lap it back up again in some empty belief that it represents the word and will of the heavens.

The "ignore" function over on MDDB has saved me a lot of frustration. Do we have it on this board too?

[_moksha]

This is a stupid comparison. One claims to be led by God. One doesn't. If you told me Germany has been led by God, and yet the halocaust still happened somehow. To believe that would not be reasonable.

If God is with you on every road you travel, then Mr. Kirby's comparison still stands. You might even say that it was cromulent.

[_Bazooka]

Basically, Kirby is saying being Mormon is akin to being German, or British or African or <insert race>.
I get why he makes that comparison even though, on the face of it, it isn't valid.

People who convert to the Church in later life probably won't 'get it', but for anyone brought up within Mormonism from a very young age, given it's 'whole life' pervasive nature, it is easy to consider yourself as "Mormon" in the exact same sense you would consider yourself American etc.

I get it.

[_ludwigm]

Do modern day Germans sing their praises to the man? Do they downplay the holocaust? Do they lie to their people about their history?
Germans collectively, at least from my experience, have a strong collective sense of guilt for the atrocities and mistakes of their country in the past and I don't see that in the LDS Church and its membership.
I just see complete denial from Mormons about the mistakes in their past and with that I see them destined to repeat them as we are seeing with their fight against equal rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. I have no doubt we will continue to see history repeat itself again and again because the Church isn't willing to acknowledge and take responsibility for their past mistakes.

I agree totally, and I marked my highlights.
TheChurch, "The Corporation... crap", LDS --- take Your pick --- should forget the word "worldwide", "universal" and all collective nouns. Those are simply meaningless.

This is an American/Utahn/SLC church. Please leave out us outside...

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Although if you believe in the Bible then apparently God sometimes enjoys commanding his followers to commit holocausts sometimes. So genocide isn't always bad, only when God hasn't commanded it yet.

The christian god is that freaking guy.

by the way why is religion, day of week/month, nationality SHOULD write with beginning caps --- and being Sheep, Stupid, Brainwashed, Ill or are not?
At least the Germans --- don't liked by that kirby guy --- use the caps coherently.



BTW2 (secondary)
Sheep, Stupid, Brainwashed are correct words, Retarded is not. Why?
(Sorry, Shades... to word my REAL question I should have spoofed the censor system).

[_bcspace]

I'd get in trouble for saying this on MDDB, but you are a cretin and an embarrassment. I have to remind myself, as an active but moderate Mormon, that you vomit your personal prejudice onto the gospel of charity and universality. Then, like a mangy and inbred dog, lap it back up again in some empty belief that it represents the word and will of the heavens.

I sincerely doubt you actually are a believing member of the Church.

The "ignore" function over on MDDB has saved me a lot of frustration. Do we have it on this board too?

Yes. Please use it though I doubt you actually will. You're already hooked and you must at least keep track of what I say.

[_bcspace]

Kirby for prophet. I'd vote for him.

I'm wondering why he didn't mention any flaws in his article.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

.. and so far homosexuality remains a simple lifestyle choice rather than something that would qualify for something like say, suspect classification.

Geesh, you're an idiot.

[_bcspace]

.. and so far homosexuality remains a simple lifestyle choice rather than something that would qualify for something like say, suspect classification.

Geesh, you're an idiot.

All you have is invective. As soon as you resort to name calling, I've won the debate.