Temple Square now a 'Priesthood only' area....

[_Bazooka]

I disagree. The Church loses too much credibility if it allows this type of thing to go on unpunished.

Can you explain who would find the church less credible if it didn't "punish" these women? I can't think of anyone or any group that would think less of the church for not punishing them.

The larger culture isn't going to think worse of the church for not excommunicating the protesters. LDS members are not clamoring for punishment. So, again, with whom is the church going to lose credibility?

I can kind of see where bcspace is coming from.
At the moment the Church is trying to tread a delicate line between wanting to appear sympathetic to its members whilst maintaining its stance on women and the Priesthood. The fact is, the longer the Church pussy foots around the issue, the more ground and credibility the Ordain Women's movement gets. The Church needs to either start ordaining women to the Priesthood, or discipline these women for outright public apostasy. Else it will find itself in an untenable position.

[_readtoomuch]

I say amen to the previous post. What a thought? Prophets asking the Lord a question and getting an answer. Oh course that assumes that they are Prophets.

[_ZelphtheGreat]

So the security goons will keep women off Temple square? All women?

Looks like "the little bit of Paris" talked about when they stole Main Street from SLC is Paris under Nazi rule.

[_Runtu]

The bull dykes will sneak through.

I haven't paid much attention to you in the past. Looks like that was a wise decision.

[_why me]

Don't people have a right to protest in areas open to the general public?
Don't members of an organisation have a right to demonstrate about things which they feel are wrong?

No, not really. Just look at what happened to the Occupy Wall Street people or the Occupy Oakland people. Beaten, tear gassed, pepper sprayed etc. All with media support.

It is church property. It is private property. So, no they don't have the right to disrupt people who may be attending.

[_why me]

So the security goons will keep women off Temple square? All women?

No. But they will make sure that people can attend a meeting without hassle. It is private property. Should it be okay if a baptist group goes on the temple square and holds up their signs of protest as the members go through the door? Or use a bull horn to disrupt the proceeding from outside the door?

People have a right to worship without fear of being harassed.

[_Bazooka]

Don't people have a right to protest in areas open to the general public?
Don't members of an organisation have a right to demonstrate about things which they feel are wrong?

No, not really. Just look at what happened to the Occupy Wall Street people or the Occupy Oakland people. Beaten, tear gassed, pepper sprayed etc. All with media support.

It is church property. It is private property. So, no they don't have the right to disrupt people who may be attending.

They should just bow they heads, say 'yes' and go home to make dinner, right?

Logistically, how will the Church stop them?
I mean, there'll be lots of visitors swarming around Temple Square that day, some of whom won't be members. Many of whom will be female. Are they going to search individuals, keep an eye out for placards, strong arm any woman in a two piece?

What will the impression be when those visitors see women being carted off by the men folk?
This is the result of the Church not dealing with the problem, preferring instead to use pr weasel words combined with a hope that it will just all go away.

[_Molok]

So, again, with whom is the church going to lose credibility?

BCSpace, which is a real tragedy.

[_Runtu]

ROFL

Come on guys, why so serious? This whole saga is beyond absurd. You act like we're discussing genital mutilation or something. Nobody is being oppressed. Why is it so hard for people to recognize the simple reality of the world in which they exist? Men and Women are not the same. Wearing pants and a tie won't change the fact.

I have no idea what you're talking about. The church is what it is, and I'm pretty sure the Ordain Women movement will not get anywhere with the institutional church.

My comments have been about your apparent belief that ugly sexist crap is witty and hilarious.

[_harmony]

I disagree. The Church loses too much credibility if it allows this type of thing to go on unpunished.

So you're saying excommunication is punishment, not a Court of Love?