A Sub-Cult Within the Cult

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_Servant
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Re: A Sub-Cult Within the Cult

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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
Servant wrote:Go to CARM, to the Mormon forum. You'll find the challenge right near the top of the threads listed - just as they have here. Let me know if you can't find it, as I'm a nice person and will help you, since you have such a cool avatar NOT!

That would be here...

http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthread.p ... _____-quot

...right?


Yes it would be E.A. - still no challengers though! Maybe tomorrow! Good night!
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Re: A Sub-Cult Within the Cult

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Okay, I went over there and checked it out. Sorry, but it's just not my cup of tea. The moderation is heavy-handed, the venue is inappropriate, and the subject has been done to death.
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What specific church / cult does Ms. Servant belong to?

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: A Sub-Cult Within the Cult

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:What specific church / cult does Ms. Servant belong to?

- Doc

I think she belongs to a congregation like the one LittleNipper belongs to.
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Re: A Sub-Cult Within the Cult

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Servant wrote:Here is a good example of maklelan "stalking" me. I put up a thread, and he attempts to put me down by saying I don't want to get educated! I might say the same to him - why didn't he accept the challenge on CARM to debate where the Nephites lived? Not one of the brave Mormons would accept the debate challenge - they had a whole list of excuses as to why they wouldn't debate! Kind of funny! All these guys having the "priesthood powers" wouldn't debate, but one little Mormon woman tried to.


Just to be clear Servant, the reason I have no interest in posting on CARM is because from what I know of it - it isn't an open forum for discussion. And I'm certain you know that and want people to discuss topics like this over there so your pocket moderators can shut us down when we start annihilating your arguments.
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Lucy Harris wrote:So far as I am concerned, it illustrates the imperfection of human beings. People who know and accept this will someday laugh at all ad hominem attacks.
ludwigm wrote:Fortunately, we have the exceptions. Prophets, seers and revelators. Mouthpieces of god.
Servant wrote:Could you tell me why anybody would consider Monson a "prophet" of God?
Lucy Harris wrote: :lol:
Nobody considers Monson a prophet (why the quotation mark, by the way?).
You, and others with one-bit-brain call him as such.

Again, to be understood well:
Servant wrote:Could you tell me why anybody would consider Monson a "prophet" of God?
No, nobody would consider Monson a prophet of god. (without quotation as above) Or seer, or revelator.
Some may CALL him as anything.


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Servant wrote:Here is a good example of maklelan "stalking" me. I put up a thread, and he attempts to put me down by saying I don't want to get educated! I might say the same to him - why didn't he accept the challenge on CARM to debate where the Nephites lived?


I explained in great detail why that was a pointless debate to engage. You weren't paying attention (even though you took the opportunity to chew me out). Big surprise.

Servant wrote:Not one of the brave Mormons would accept the debate challenge - they had a whole list of excuses as to why they wouldn't debate! Kind of funny! All these guys having the "priesthood powers" wouldn't debate, but one little Mormon woman tried to.


I think it's kind of funny that a whole message board of Christians cowers in the corner and tries to get me banned every time I bring up the Bible on threads that talk about the Bible.
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Re: A Sub-Cult Within the Cult

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Servant wrote:No, it's a pretty fair place actually. As long as people watch their mouths.


Let's see what the people who are not indigenous to the board have said about it:

I'm sure you know they are not representative of Evangelicals as a whole. We have a lot more in common and most of us do not have the vitriol and hatred of Catholics as the people on CARM do.


The root awfulness of CARM is its lack of moderation, or even worse, its moderators being the most offense posters on the site. That's what attracts the kooks who post there. To me, it has nothing to do with Catholic or Protestant.


Lol don't even get me started on CARM. My debate with them on when Abraham was justified devolved into them calling me a stoolie of the devil in about two posts. It wasn't exactly the intelligent comparison of exegesis that I had intended.


I used CARM for a few posts also, it's a hot-bed of pure bigotry.


assuming that this is not a Google glitch, it does look like CARM is deliberately deleting posts where Catholics get the upper hand.


more crap from carm above. the go to place for all bigots of every stripe


Right up there with answersingenesis.org as some of the most toxic websites evangelical Christianity has ever produced.


The danger is that it doesn't seem too bad on the surface. But once you start digging in, there's a lot of unpleasant stuff. Some of the anti-Catholic rhetoric is particularly sickening.


As one can see CARM forums and it's proprietor are bigoted hypocrites with an modus operandi of shooting the messenger if CARM doesn't like the message.


Yeah, it's very fair as long as you belong to the right ideological community.
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Re: A Sub-Cult Within the Cult

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maklelan wrote:
I think it's kind of funny that a whole message board of Christians cowers in the corner and tries to get me banned every time I bring up the Bible on threads that talk about the Bible.


Not everyone Maklelan...I see, like the red queen, when pinned in a corner getting banned, or trying to get others banned, is a way out for you and others...but that's just my observation. I have never reported you, or anyone else for that matter. Although I think you cannot speak past the chip on your shoulder...I appreciate your point of view and enjoy your challenges. It is aggravating to me that every time we get a conversation going you get banned...so I am with you in that sense. There are a few nine year old girls there that send PM's to other Christians, for them to alert the mods when they stick their foot in their mouth by not doing their homework...I give you that.
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Re: A Sub-Cult Within the Cult

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Markk wrote:
maklelan wrote:
I think it's kind of funny that a whole message board of Christians cowers in the corner and tries to get me banned every time I bring up the Bible on threads that talk about the Bible.


Not everyone Maklelan...I see, like the red queen, when pinned in a corner getting banned, or trying to get others banned, is a way out for you and others...but that's just my observation. I have never reported you, or anyone else for that matter. Although I think you cannot speak past the chip on your shoulder...I appreciate your point of view and enjoy your challenges. It is aggravating to me that every time we get a conversation going you get banned...so I am with you in that sense. There are a few nine year old girls there that send PM's to other Christians, for them to alert the mods when they stick their foot in their mouth by not doing their homework...I give you that.


Markk, you're the only one on the Mormonism board who's ever tried to engage my concerns directly, and who has ever given me anything to think about, and I appreciate that. I'm certainly not trying to get out, though. What you call a chip on my shoulder is the result of posting on that board for around 7 years now, with Catherine chasing me around the internet to hurl her bigotry and the moderation and the quality of discourse gradually degrading over that time into the board's current lamentable state.
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