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Servant wrote:You might as well say mak is a stalker for continuously coming over to CARM and trumpeting how smart he is, and how dumb I am, and many others. Even though there are Christians over there better educated than is he. You see, if we visit mak - we're stalkers! If he comes over to CARM, peddling his demeaning remarks (and anybody who knows him obviously knows what I mean) he's a hero! The fact is, mak is a higher textual critic, and is always harping about talking donkeys and floating ax heads. But, if you ask him to prove the existence of Nephites or Jaredite subs - off he goes, stalking away claiming persecution. So, Mormons should grow up a little and learn that sometimes Christians might have some valid points. By the way, I didn't ask your pal to post on this thread, did I. See what I mean? He jumped at the chance!

I like mak, though I do not agree with any of his beliefs. I have never been a Mormon and we will always disagree on those points. Mak is a valuable member of this board and has been since before I became a member. His judicious and intellectual posts are a joy for me to read in contrast to some of the other TBMs that post here.

Personally, I don't see much difference between 'True Blue Mormons' and Christian fundamentalists. They both fall out of the same bucket of confusion and neurosis.

I do think that chasing someone around different venues on the internet points to some insecurity of beliefs on your side. Confronting mak will not ease your insecurities. You will need to do some soul searching to accomplish that.

moksha wrote:Servant, I am wondering if New Order Mormonism might share more in common with Progressive Christianity than a return to an orthodox deity.

You might try the burning cross test: Place a NOM near a burning cross and see if he is attracted to it or walks away. If he walks away, he is definitely not orthodox material.

Haha.

Many members consider me a NOM.

I participate on the NOM board.

I'm an universalist with pantheist leanings.

I have been univited to participate in the Mormon church by my devout family members.

I follow this board mostly for the humor and entertainment value. However, when Darth J speaks...I listen. That guy...is brilliant.

There are several other posters here that are brilliant, and this board produces a wealth of information, in my opinion of course.

cwald wrote:Many members consider me a NOM.

I participate on the NOM board.

I'm an universalist with pantheist leanings.

I have been univited to participate in the Mormon church by family members.

That's interesting. Aren't Mormons essentially Universalists (Smith's ancestors were)? The pantheist concept is interesting - Christians believe God is Omnipresent, Immanent and also Transcendent. Mormonism limits god to some kind of human body - the Mormon deity being essentially an exalted human being.

So you were "uninvited" to participate in Mormonism. Consider yourself blessed! You might want to research Christianity - what you may have learned about Christianity from Mormon sources is distorted.

Quasimodo wrote:

Servant wrote:You might as well say mak is a stalker for continuously coming over to CARM and trumpeting how smart he is, and how dumb I am, and many others. Even though there are Christians over there better educated than is he. You see, if we visit mak - we're stalkers! If he comes over to CARM, peddling his demeaning remarks (and anybody who knows him obviously knows what I mean) he's a hero! The fact is, mak is a higher textual critic, and is always harping about talking donkeys and floating ax heads. But, if you ask him to prove the existence of Nephites or Jaredite subs - off he goes, stalking away claiming persecution. So, Mormons should grow up a little and learn that sometimes Christians might have some valid points. By the way, I didn't ask your pal to post on this thread, did I. See what I mean? He jumped at the chance!

I like mak, though I do not agree with any of his beliefs. I have never been a Mormon and we will always disagree on those points. Mak is a valuable member of this board and has been since before I became a member. His judicious and intellectual posts are a joy for me to read in contrast to some of the other TBMs that post here.

Personally, I don't see much difference between 'True Blue Mormons' and Christian fundamentalists. They both fall out of the same bucket of confusion and neurosis.

I do think that chasing someone around different venues on the internet points to some insecurity of beliefs on your side. Confronting mak will not ease your insecurities. You will need to do some soul searching to accomplish that.

Mak is not that important in the big picture. I just don't like how he treats Christians on CARM. However, I came here long ago, and don't generally interact with him at all. I certainly don't chase him around, as he contends, and as you apparently bought into. I do like to read the threads over here because they are informative as to what is currently going on in the Mormon community. I also go to other Mormon sites and blogs. The Mormons who post on CARM are mostly TBMs and refuse to discuss any possibility that Mormonism may not be all it's cracked up to be.

And speaking of "stalking," we have on Mormon on CARM whom I have had on ignore forever because he posted personal information about me publicly - apparently garnered from board messages. He also publicly posted messages I had put up on CARM onto another site. So, save your comments about stalking for someone else, and don't be so quick to believe everything that is posted.

Interestingly, when this board was mentioned on CARM, the TBMs said this place is fully of Atheists and Agnostics! You see how quickly Mormons turn on Mormons?

Servant wrote:

Mak is not that important in the big picture. I just don't like how he treats Christians on CARM. However, I came here long ago, and don't generally interact with him at all. I certainly don't chase him around, as he contends, and as you apparently bought into. I do like to read the threads over here because they are informative as to what is currently going on in the Mormon community. I also go to other Mormon sites and blogs. The Mormons who post on CARM are mostly TBMs and refuse to discuss any possibility that Mormonism may not be all it's cracked up to be.

And speaking of "stalking," we have on Mormon on CARM whom I have had on ignore forever because he posted personal information about me publicly - apparently garnered from board messages. He also publicly posted messages I had put up on CARM onto another site. So, save your comments about stalking for someone else, and don't be so quick to believe everything that is posted.

Interestingly, when this board was mentioned on CARM, the TBMs said this place is fully of Atheists and Agnostics! You see how quickly Mormons turn on Mormons?

If you were truly a Christian, Servant, you would let it go. You know this.

Quasimodo wrote:

Servant wrote:

Mak is not that important in the big picture. I just don't like how he treats Christians on CARM. However, I came here long ago, and don't generally interact with him at all. I certainly don't chase him around, as he contends, and as you apparently bought into. I do like to read the threads over here because they are informative as to what is currently going on in the Mormon community. I also go to other Mormon sites and blogs. The Mormons who post on CARM are mostly TBMs and refuse to discuss any possibility that Mormonism may not be all it's cracked up to be.

And speaking of "stalking," we have on Mormon on CARM whom I have had on ignore forever because he posted personal information about me publicly - apparently garnered from board messages. He also publicly posted messages I had put up on CARM onto another site. So, save your comments about stalking for someone else, and don't be so quick to believe everything that is posted.

Interestingly, when this board was mentioned on CARM, the TBMs said this place is fully of Atheists and Agnostics! You see how quickly Mormons turn on Mormons?

If you were truly a Christian, Servant, you would let it go. You know this.

You mean not respond to him when I'm attacked - as I just did on another thread? Sorry, pal, I stick up for myself and for my faith and don't take kindly to rudeness. I have just as much a right to post here as anybody else, and I don't use vulgar language, either. If you don't like what I post, I suggest you report me. And by the way, what do you know about Christians since you are not one? We are not door mats - and you can take that to the bank. Why don't you go over to CARM sometime and meet some Chrsitians? I think you'll be treated respectfully.

Servant wrote:Interestingly, when this board was mentioned on CARM, the TBMs said this place is fully of Atheists and Agnostics! You see how quickly Mormons turn on Mormons?

My guess is the majority of regular posters are agnostic or atheist.

RockSlider wrote:

Servant wrote:Interestingly, when this board was mentioned on CARM, the TBMs said this place is fully of Atheists and Agnostics! You see how quickly Mormons turn on Mormons?

My guess is the majority of regular posters are agnostic or atheist.

Is that just on this particular forum, and not the Celestial forum?

RockSlider wrote:

Servant wrote:Interestingly, when this board was mentioned on CARM, the TBMs said this place is fully of Atheists and Agnostics! You see how quickly Mormons turn on Mormons?

My guess is the majority of regular posters are agnostic or atheist.

I agree, the majority are either Atheists or Agnostic. But I wouldn't call this an example of how "Mormons turn on Mormons".