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Servant wrote:Actually, I was just told by the CC pastor that he really appreciates me; as far as the Anglicans go, our priest is a personal friend and my husband and I visit him frequently at his ranch.

If you are telling us the truth and they were telling you the truth, then my faith in humanity has just slipped a notch or two and Ceeboo's advice about betting turns out to be wise.

Servant wrote:So, this can assure you that I'm not the anathema character you like to portray me as. Maybe you should deal with what I post and the doctrinal themes instead of worrying about how a pastor relates to me.

I have no problems with any doctrines you choose to believe. That's your business. I'm just a little put off by your judgementalism. Matthew 7:1-3 (from your book).

Servant wrote:How does God relate to you would be the better question. What kind of relationship do you have with God?

I don't know. Never met the fella (neither have you).

I have two main thoughts about God. One (that I'm quite sure of) is that I don't know anything about God. The other (that I'm almost sure of) is that nobody else does, either.

Since you have no qualms about passing out advice, I'll give you some. You'll catch more flies with honey.

Runtu wrote:

Fence Sitter wrote:Why did the Bible need to be summarized somewhere else?

If the Bible contains all we need to know about God and the gospel, it doesn't need to be summarized anywhere.

Where it potentially gets a little sticky is when one considers that there have been volumes written that are meant to summarize the summary, and those summaries often end up almost as long as the thing that the summary was summarizing.

:Inception:

[quote="DrW"]Count me among those who was flabbergasted that Servant would self-identify as Anglican. She is certainly not like any other Anglican or CoE member I have ever met. She sounds about as Anglican and Kent sounds atheist.[/quote

Obviously you are very uninformed. Why don't you review this which posts what kind of apostasy is going on in the Episcopal Church or other liberal Anglican denominations, and the response of conservative Anglicans:

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/index.php

Plus, I doubt you'd ever see the mocking and blasphemy that goes on on this forum on an Anglican forum. They debate, but intelligently and not clownishly. Trying to impress others by being the best mocker and putdown guy is sort of nauseating to me. It pretty much confirms what the Mormons over on CARM have to say about this site. Anglicans get their points across in a mature way, don't throw temper tantrums, have more manners by far and actually think through what they say:

http://accurmudgeon.blogspot.com/ l

Servant wrote:Obviously you are very uninformed. Why don't you review this which posts what kind of apostasy is going on in the Episcopal Church or other liberal Anglican denominations, and the response of conservative Anglicans:

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/index.php

Plus, I doubt you'd ever see the mocking and blasphemy that goes on on this forum on an Anglican forum. They debate, but intelligently and not clownishly. Trying to impress others by being the best mocker and putdown guy is sort of nauseating to me. It pretty much confirms what the Mormons over on CARM have to say about this site. Anglicans get their points across in a mature way, don't throw temper tantrums, have more manners by far and actually think through what they say:

http://accurmudgeon.blogspot.com/ l

Fun facts!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1403106/One-third-of-clergy-do-not-believe-in-the-Resurrection.html

A third of Church of England clergy doubt or disbelieve in the physical Resurrection and only half are convinced of the truth of the Virgin birth, according to a new survey.
The poll of nearly 2,000 of the Church's 10,000 clergy also found that only half believe that faith in Christ is the only route to salvation.

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Just a note, I was born and raised in the Church of England (well, born anyway). I believe that's Anglican. We are just about all (more or less) Agnostics, now.

You are behind the times, Servant.

Quasimodo: Just a note, I was born and raised in the Church of England (well, born anyway). I believe that's Anglican. We are just about all (more or less) Agnostics, now.


Yes, I can see English Anglicanism in you. Too bad. Look up Continuing Anglicanism and get educated. Are there any Christians at all left in the C of E?

Servant,
So you consider your behavior here well mannered?

Me, I treat you with the same dismissive arrogance I see you aiming at Mormons.

Servant wrote:The creeds were recited in Church, and still are, to summarize the basic beliefs of Christianity.

So you reject the Bible, then?

Why are you so worked up about creeds?

Because they are extrabiblical heresy.

Doesn't the Mormon church have creeds? It sure does.

It does not matter, does it? We do not hold the Bible to be the only word of God.

Furthermore, Lectures on Faith, which was removed from the Mormon "standard works" when the doctrines changed, were longer than both!

Your point?

Servant wrote:
Quasimodo: Just a note, I was born and raised in the Church of England (well, born anyway). I believe that's Anglican. We are just about all (more or less) Agnostics, now.


Yes, I can see English Anglicanism in you. Too bad. Look up Continuing Anglicanism and get educated. Are there any Christians at all left in the C of E?

It depends on the definition of 'Christian'. Probably not by your understanding of the word.

It's not "too bad", it's very good. There have been too many atrocities committed by zealous believers like yourself. Europe, in general, has moved beyond those horrible days when Catholics and Protestants took turns burning each other at the stake. People in England and Europe are just weary of the foolishness.

Church attendance has dropped dramatically in Europe (especially LDS churches). The smarter and better educated people become, the less they need mythologies from the past.

Servant wrote:They debate, but intelligently and not clownishly.

An Anglican minister decided to go to a silent monastery to escape the pressures of his church. The rule was; you could speak only two words every five years.

At the end of his first 5 years, he went to his superior and said "bad food." The superior nodded his head and the minister went back to his cell for another 5 years. At the end of ten years, the minister went to his superior and said "hard bed." Again, his superior nodded and the minister went back until 15 years had passed. This time the minister went to his superior and said "I quit."
The superior replied "It's about time too, you have done nothing but complain since you've been here."

Trying to impress others by being the best mocker and putdown guy is sort of nauseating to me. It pretty much confirms what the Mormons over on CARM have to say about this site. Anglicans get their points across in a mature way, don't throw temper tantrums, have more manners by far and actually think through what they say:

Yeah well, Anglicans eat boogers and their feet stink!
Poopy head!

Peace,
Ceeboo

Ceeboo wrote:Yeah well, Anglicans eat boogers and their feet stink!
Poopy head!

Peace,
Ceeboo

Personally, I'd rather the kind of mocking that admits it's mocking. Some might say that dogmatically condemning people based on a caricature of their belief is a far worse form of mockery.