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Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:44 pm
by _beanboots
1. Missionaries will teach “Lesson 5: Laws and Ordinances” in Chapter 3 of Preach My Gospel both before and after baptism.

2. Mission presidents will actively teach and re-teach the Lord’s standard for baptism, as recorded in Doctrine and Covenants, section 20, verse 37. "Two phrases are particularly important in preparing the investigator for the covenant of baptism: "having a determination to serve him to the end, and truly manifest by their works that they have received of the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins..."

3. "When possible, missionaries will work closely with each new member for at least three to four months after baptism and continue to keep close to them for at least a year and hopefully for many years and even generations. …"

4. “Missionaries will take the lead in re-teaching all five of the lessons in Preach My Gospel after baptism.



http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865605731/Adjustments-made-for-more-effective-team-work-between-missionaries-and-local-leaders.html?pg=all

Re: Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:47 pm
by _No_Hidden_Agenda
beanboots wrote:
1. Missionaries will teach “Lesson 5: Laws and Ordinances” in Chapter 3 of Preach My Gospel both before and after baptism.

2. Mission presidents will actively teach and re-teach the Lord’s standard for baptism, as recorded in Doctrine and Covenants, section 20, verse 37. "Two phrases are particularly important in preparing the investigator for the covenant of baptism: "having a determination to serve him to the end, and truly manifest by their works that they have received of the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins..."

3. "When possible, missionaries will work closely with each new member for at least three to four months after baptism and continue to keep close to them for at least a year and hopefully for many years and even generations. …"

4. “Missionaries will take the lead in re-teaching all five of the lessons in Preach My Gospel after baptism.



http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865605731/Adjustments-made-for-more-effective-team-work-between-missionaries-and-local-leaders.html?pg=all


In other words, retention of new converts sucks and the Morg want to inoculate the new converts longer, hoping they will have less damaging exposure to the internet before sinking enough costs into membership to feel it worth leaving.

Re: Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:48 pm
by _The Mighty Builder
beanboots wrote:
1. Missionaries will teach “Lesson 5: Laws and Ordinances” in Chapter 3 of Preach My Gospel both before and after baptism.

2. Mission presidents will actively teach and re-teach the Lord’s standard for baptism, as recorded in Doctrine and Covenants, section 20, verse 37. "Two phrases are particularly important in preparing the investigator for the covenant of baptism: "having a determination to serve him to the end, and truly manifest by their works that they have received of the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins..."

3. "When possible, missionaries will work closely with each new member for at least three to four months after baptism and continue to keep close to them for at least a year and hopefully for many years and even generations. …"

4. “Missionaries will take the lead in re-teaching all five of the lessons in Preach My Gospel after baptism.



http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865605731/Adjustments-made-for-more-effective-team-work-between-missionaries-and-local-leaders.html?pg=all


There goes Mormon Missionary baptism programs.

Good luck in implementing this type of extended relationship in a boiler room sells program.

Re: Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:56 pm
by _Arrakis
beanboots wrote:
3. "When possible, missionaries will work closely with each new member for at least three to four months after baptism and continue to keep close to them for at least a year and hopefully for many years and even generations. …"


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865605731/Adjustments-made-for-more-effective-team-work-between-missionaries-and-local-leaders.html?pg=all


Yeah, that'll work.

Re: Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:10 pm
by _Res Ipsa
Are there also steps being taken to more effectively integrate new members into the ward/branches. Wouldn't that be more effective than trying to prolong the missionary-investigator relationship? Or is this more about giving all these missionaries something to do other than plant flags?

Re: Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:21 pm
by _Quasimodo
Arrakis wrote:
beanboots wrote:"When possible, missionaries will work closely with each new member for at least three to four months after baptism and continue to keep close to them for at least a year and hopefully for many years and even generations. …"


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865605731/Adjustments-made-for-more-effective-team-work-between-missionaries-and-local-leaders.html?pg=all

Yeah, that'll work.


Bad sales tactics (which is a good thing).
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Re: Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:54 pm
by _DarkHelmet
Brad Hudson wrote:Are there also steps being taken to more effectively integrate new members into the ward/branches. Wouldn't that be more effective than trying to prolong the missionary-investigator relationship? Or is this more about giving all these missionaries something to do other than plant flags?


That's been the strategy for as long as I can remember. After baptism the missionaries turn them over to the ward, and the ward is supposed to give them a calling, fellowship them, and keep them active. Apparently the members have failed in their duties. It's hard to pretend to be someone's friend without them seeing through it.

Re: Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:56 pm
by _Rollo Tomasi
A few years the Church made a "big" change by transferring much of a convert's post-baptism work (i.e., tailored discussions, fellowship, etc.) to the bishop and ward mission; obviously that isn't working, so the Brethren are basically taking those responsibilities and giving them back to full-time missionaries. It might also be that current full-time missionaries have little to do, day in and day out, so this is a way to come up with some 'busy work' that doesn't suck as much as tracting did.

Re: Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:05 pm
by _beanboots
DarkHelmet wrote:
Brad Hudson wrote:Are there also steps being taken to more effectively integrate new members into the ward/branches. Wouldn't that be more effective than trying to prolong the missionary-investigator relationship? Or is this more about giving all these missionaries something to do other than plant flags?


That's been the strategy for as long as I can remember. After baptism the missionaries turn them over to the ward, and the ward is supposed to give them a calling, fellowship them, and keep them active. Apparently the members have failed in their duties. It's hard to pretend to be someone's friend without them seeing through it.


what i loved was when the majority of us ivy leaguers would isolate into our own cliques and not associate with the new converts or community college/state college students outside of church and ward-sponsored activities.

that was horrible and i was chastised by a grand nephew of henry b. eyring for wanting to end the BS. that's why i hated singles wards and university wards. “F” that.

Re: Deseret News: Missionary lesson changes announced

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:20 pm
by _suniluni2
Rollo Tomasi wrote:A few years the Church made a "big" change by transferring much of a convert's post-baptism work (i.e., tailored discussions, fellowship, etc.) to the bishop and ward mission; obviously that isn't working, so the Brethren are basically taking those responsibilities and giving them back to full-time missionaries. It might also be that current full-time missionaries have little to do, day in and day out, so this is a way to come up with some 'busy work' that doesn't suck as much as tracting did.


nail hit on head.