Breaking: First Presidency & Q12 Issue Statement on Apostasy

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Re: Breaking: First Presidency & Q12 Issue Statement on Apos

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When was the last official statement issued by the The Council of The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (a.k.a. FP/12)? What was the topic? Obviously the purge of the spring of 2014 is something significant enough to elicit this one.
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Gadianton wrote:Well, there you have it. I guess my campaign to escalate is officially over. Hi fives to Tim, Rollo, and Kish, who have beaten me. Good game guys.

I wonder if Holland Jr. still sees no evidence for Kate's proceedings coming from beyond her local leaders? No evidence, none at all?

Well, the TBMs can thank their critics. Without the tremendous efforts of the critics, they would have never got their one and only revelation for the year 2014.

What a minute, Dean. Do you want to poll the jury before accepting the verdict as that of each of the 15?
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Equality wrote:Nice to see the prophets have gotten in line with their file leader President Newsroom.


quorum of the 16. jesus. they get bolder and bolder and bolder with this relationship.


kate kelly would have gotten the priesthood faster if she had just applied for a job in the newsroom.
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Short and sweet. KK doesn't have a leg to stand on. You may not like the church's position, but there is no question what that position is.


Hilarious Water Dog.

...a week after her execution, the prosecution and the judge revealed to the world of the living the laws the accused had violated. She had no leg to stand on. The supporters of the prosecution celebrated: all along, they knew she had been wrong. And now, they had proof.
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Like a black man trying to address a KKK rally.

So, in this analogy, the church is a black man and OW is the KKK? Er, um, ok, suuuuure.
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sock puppet wrote:When was the last official statement issued by the The Council of The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (a.k.a. FP/12)? What was the topic? Obviously the purge of the spring of 2014 is something significant enough to elicit this one.

It was the family proclamation and then the living christ i believe.
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Equality wrote:
Like a black man trying to address a KKK rally.

So, in this analogy, the church is a black man and OW is the KKK? Er, um, ok, suuuuure.


I thought he was saying the opposite—that KK was the Black man trying to address the KKK (church).
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Equality wrote:
Like a black man trying to address a KKK rally.

So, in this analogy, the church is a black man and OW is the KKK? Er, um, ok, suuuuure.


Tim the Enchanter wrote:I thought he was saying the opposite—that KK was the Black man trying to address the KKK (church).

Maybe you are right. I have re-read it a few times now and am still not sure. If so, then the implication is that the KKK is justified in ignoring the black man because he is so "on the offensive."
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i reread it too. and it is pretty clear that in water dog's analogy, water dog is the prick.
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Are you really that ignorant?


Ignorant of what, or in what way?

What good does it do to inform Kate on what the definition of apostasy is a week after she'd been excommunicated?

This is something the brethren should have clearly communicated to her in December. They didn't. Their own excommunication letter makes that clear.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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