Breaking: First Presidency & Q12 Issue Statement on Apostasy

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Fence Sitter wrote:On a side note, I wonder if the Washington Post has tried to interview Randy Bott as to why he thinks Mormon women are not allow to hold the priesthood? Maybe the female body is poorly equipped to climb ladders?


great idea. hey Randy, at least Kelly will never be a son of perdition, amirite? it's like the Lord could forsee her inferiority and protected her from that risk.
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Correction:

"Only men [and boys] are ordained to serve in priesthood offices."
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Water Dog wrote:She couldn't wait to toss off her garments and flaunt her new look to the camera.


And you wonder why the church gets negative press and people think you're crazy.

1. Since she was excommunicated she can no longer wear garments.
2. There was nothing wrong with the way she was dressed. Nothing at all.

The "controversy" among TBMs about her outfit has non-mormons scratching their heads and asking each other why Mormons are so weird.
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Fence Sitter wrote:Maybe the female body is poorly equipped to climb ladders?
No. It works correctly.

As I have no images, I can be graphic:
If the vagina were horizontal, it would gawp on ladders and stairways.

This is not NSFW. Your boss doesn't see Your fantasy.
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Didn't the First Presidency say something similar in 1949.....
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From the Salt Lake Tribune

Moreover, they defined apostasy as "people who speak out against leaders of the church, or those who teach false doctrine," she said. "Given that I have always sustained leaders of church, and Ordain Women doesn’t teach any doctrine — let alone false doctrine — this clearly exonerates me. I am not guilty of either of those charges."

Has the statement given Kelly justifiable appeal?
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ludwigm wrote:
Fence Sitter wrote:Maybe the female body is poorly equipped to climb ladders?
No. It works correctly.

As I have no images, I can be graphic:
If the vagina were horizontal, it would gawp on ladders and stairways.

This is not NSFW. Your boss doesn't see Your fantasy.


Hilarious. My son enjoys sliding down the stair rail in our two story house. Yesterday, he decided to try sliding down naked - resulting in a frantic attempt to stop him launching himself down, as the gap between the rail and the supports afforded a number of opportunities for his willie to be caught in the works as he continued sliding down. Luckily we got to him before disaster. According to Moses, he would not have been able to hold the priesthood had anything happened. Does the church hold to the traditional "intact genitalia" requirement for priesthood?
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sock puppet wrote:Ask privately; don't expect answers

ex-bishop, 10/27/2013


You can expect answers..... One however needs to be humble, patient, and teachable enough to seek, learn, and understand them.
Problem is, many are not. They already KNOW, like Kelly "knows" the Church is INTOLERANT for not ordaining women to the "lay" priesthood.
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Tim wrote:The definition of apostasy used comes from Book 1 which stake presidents and bishops use. My guess is that Kate Kelly was made aware of this before she was excommunicated, but I don't know when.


She should have been made aware of it in December, but I don't think she was. Because the definition appears in the confidential CHI, and there is no indication from the Bishop that she was explicitly told this, I think there is reason to believe she was not aware. The may 22 letter may have hinted at this and I can't remember, but that would be a little late, like yelling to your child to look both ways before crossing the street to avoid the oncoming cars when she's already half way across.
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Spanner wrote:Hilarious.

I am sorry, it is not about priesthood or religion or whatever.

It is about our (=my) children, grandchildren, our posterity...
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