Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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Re: Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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Equality wrote:
Kishkumen wrote:The next piece, by the aspiring Ann Coulter of Mopologetics, Cassandra Hedelius, is either slick but logically inept or just plain deceptive.

Professor, is it just because of her name that I find it impossible to believe anything she says?


The big difference here is that what the ancient Cassandra said was true.

But the thought did cross my mind!
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Re: Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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Bazooka wrote:Mark Paredes is a Mormon Bishop, right?


Indeed. There is no IQ test for the position of LDS bishop.
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Re: Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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Equality wrote:
Kishkumen wrote:The next piece, by the aspiring Ann Coulter of Mopologetics, Cassandra Hedelius, is either slick but logically inept or just plain deceptive.

Professor, is it just because of her name that I find it impossible to believe anything she says?


when someone starts using ann coulter's name in vain, i fear for her ass.
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Re: Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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Cassandra's final paragraph:
A faith community bound by loyalty to an inspired organization and leadership can reasonably conclude that loud public antagonism, destructive to that loyalty, requires discipline to preserve the overall health of the community. We hope that sorrowing church members and outside observers can understand that truth.


Bound by loyalty to the organisation and leadership.

Wow.
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Re: Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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Kishkumen wrote:
Bazooka wrote:Mark Paredes is a Mormon Bishop, right?


Indeed. There is no IQ test for the position of LDS bishop.


cassandra has a history with this topic.

http://blog.fairmormon.org/2011/05/30/a ... #more-1549

she is a parrot at best.
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Re: Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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Mark Paredes said:
Every Sunday I conduct a 90-minute leadership meeting (ward council) which several women leaders attend.


Every Sunday? On a different LDS forum, I had read that one meeting a month for an hour is the usual requirement. Any longer than that is being disrespectful to members' time with their families on a Sunday.

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Re: Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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i have been on a lot of ward councils in three different states. i have never been in a ward where the ward council met weekly. is that new? is that part of the increased leadership for women?

i know bishopric and PEC has met more often, but the whole ward council was every other week or less.

not that it matters in his arguments, just curious to know if that has changed along with adding pictures of women to the conference center hallways.
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Re: Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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Maureen wrote:
Mark Paredes said:
Every Sunday I conduct a 90-minute leadership meeting (ward council) which several women leaders attend.


Every Sunday? On a different LDS forum, I had read that one meeting a month for an hour is the usual requirement. Any longer than that is being disrespectful to members' time with their families on a Sunday.

M.



Paredes is probably lying to suit his diatribe.
He will hold ward council on a monthly basis, like everywhere else does.
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Re: Two Reflections on Kelly's Excommunication

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Kishkumen wrote:The next piece, by the aspiring Ann Coulter of Mopologetics, Cassandra Hedelius, . . .


Very high compliment . . . in mopologetics' eyes.
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