LDS Church to survey members about female ordination

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What is it a prophet does again?
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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Fence Sitter wrote:What is it a prophet does again?


Mall openings and Bank dedications.
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Bazooka wrote:
Fence Sitter wrote:What is it a prophet does again?


Mall openings and Bank dedications.


& surveys, it seems.

How would the LDS leadership decision making process look any different if these men were not led by God?
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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They would get more things right?
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moksha wrote:You know, if the Church was the kind of entity that wished to control the narrative from start to finish, these 1000 surveys mailed out would not be random in selection. Good thing the Church is above that sort of thing, of staging a survey just for purposes of validation.

Yeah, what does "randomly selected" really mean? And if the survey isn't really of "randomly selected" members, what purpose does it serve, especially when you consider that, apparently, they don't plan on publicly revealing the results?
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Fence Sitter wrote:How would the LDS leadership decision making process look any different if these men were not led by God?


consiglieri wrote:They would get more things right?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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Ludd wrote:Yeah, what does "randomly selected" really mean? And if the survey isn't really of "randomly selected" members, what purpose does it serve, especially when you consider that, apparently, they don't plan on publicly revealing the results?

Randomly selected means any member whose area code ends in 8460# can get a survey.
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Bazooka wrote:
What is being asked?

Some of the questions in the LDS Church’s survey about women, doctrinal issues and sources of information:

» As you understand it, what is the church’s definition of “apostasy”?

If this is the first question (maybe, according to the expression "some of the questions"), any average answerer rethinks seven times what should he/she answer to the other questions...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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Fence Sitter wrote:
How would the LDS leadership decision making process look any different if these men were not led by God?


It kind of does make one wonder what Monson and Jesus talk about when they have their weekly sherbet in the SLC Temple Holy of Holies. Can't Monson just [em] ask [/em] Jesus what the members think? Surely Jesus can download a report or a spreadsheet from his celestial brain onto COB with the relevant information, right? Maybe Jesus can even clue Monson into how to build a quantum computer or the next super strain of wheat and make the world that much better.
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Why would the Church only survey 1/15,000th of it's claimed membership?

Surely it has means to survey 1,000 members from every Stake, which would produce more reliable feedback.

I wonder if the 1,000 chosen are all Stake, Mission and Temple Presidents?

I hope that one of the 1,000 is Elohim.
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