Masturbation OK for TBM's after marriage?

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Re: Masturbation OK for TBM's after marriage?

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Ludd wrote:
Gadianton wrote:Hi Ludd,

I'll answer your question if you answer one of mine, OK?

I have a question about the word of wisdom and health/extreme sports. I was a little surprised when I found out a buddy of mine was taking huge amounts of caffeine every day as part of his exercise with doctor supervision and he is totally TBM. Currently he's a stake mission leader and won't wear anything but a white shirt to church. Without going into details, the two of us used to work out together when I lived close to muscle beach where I spent all my free time and before I got a huge promotion as an executive. We had sort of a friendly rivalry going, having both won several body-building competitions and you know, it was always who had the biggest triceps or meanest lats or who got the most looks from the beach babes. But we were never inappropriate and didn't look too much and we always started our workouts with reading the Book of Mormon so there were no problems there. In fact, we used our success to tell the women who would try and flirt with us about the Church or the guys who wanted tips on getting ripped. I guess that's why he's a mission leader due to his popularity and charisma and I was for several years but I'm now in the stake presidency. We both still hit the gym hard and compete on occasion, but I was shocked to learn about his caffeine use. Is he breaking the Word of Wisdom by taking caffeine?

I also have a question about tithing. I was a little surprised when I discovered a former business partner pays on his net rather than his gross. We were both Wall Street investors and also did merger acq. back in the day. Without going into details, I always paid my gross check, even my bonuses when they were in the seven figure range. I figure it didn't matter since I owned twelve houses by the time I was thirty. My friend was a counselor in the Bishopric and ran all kinds of charity things for the Church as well. He had as much as I did or possibly more, given he threw me a birthday party once where he sent a half-dozen strippers to kidnap me from my penthouse office and force me into a limo to one of his Gulfstreams that whisked me to an island he rented for the weekend. Hey, neither one of us were married at the time and it was all in good fun and nothing inappropriate happened, the bishop even found out and didn't make a big deal of it. Well, I found out buying him dinner at Per Se that he pays on his net. I guess that's why it seemed he was doing better than me at times. I was kind of shocked, but he thought it was normal. So is he paying a full tithing if he pays on his net? What do you guys think?

I have had suspicions for a long time about a certain thing. This post, despite it's weirdness, comes very darn close to finally confirming those suspicions, and leaves me wondering one thing more than any other: where do you find the time?

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I'm still wondering how all three sockpuppets can hang out in chat and discourse with the others, as though they are three different people. It is so seamless.....it must be a miracle.
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Re: Masturbation OK for TBM's after marriage?

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gramps wrote:Time isn't the half of it.

I'm still wondering how all three sockpuppets can hang out in chat and discourse with the others, as though they are three different people. It is so seamless.....it must be a miracle.


I would love to see Ludd, Water Dog and Kent, all conversing with each other in chat.
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Perhaps the idea is that if one masturbates as a means to lower the desire to get into a relationship that is counterproductive to the establishment of families but after marriage it is no big deal. You know I had a psychology professor who noted that in the 1960s vibrators were sold as aids for back massage but all women knew what they really were for. Now women even give each other vibrators as birthday gifts and I doubt their boyfriends or husbands mind at all:

Well, except for that creepy guy at BYU who writes anonymous notes of condemnation to girls in "immodest" leggings. :biggrin:
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gramps wrote:Time isn't the half of it.

I'm still wondering how all three sockpuppets can hang out in chat and discourse with the others, as though they are three different people. It is so seamless.....it must be a miracle.

Not very miraculous at all if you ask me. Fact is, you hardly ever see one of them posting on a thread without the other two tailing close behind. If they are actually three different people from three different locations with three different lives/jobs/families/etc., then it is truly amazing that all three of them just happen to be paying attention at the same time, are always available to post at the same time, and always seem to disappear from the board at the same time and for the same duration of time, only to then later re-appear in tandem. That is the real miracle.
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Bazooka wrote:
gramps wrote:Time isn't the half of it.

I'm still wondering how all three sockpuppets can hang out in chat and discourse with the others, as though they are three different people. It is so seamless.....it must be a miracle.


I would love to see Ludd, Water Dog and Kent, all conversing with each other in chat.

So you are suggesting that myself, Water Dog, and Kent are the same person? Really? I can't recall ever paying much attention to any thread where "Kent" was posting, so I don't know what he's like. But I remember when Water Dog used to post, and If I recall correctly, he was more or less a TBM, and his style was fairly unique to himself. So I'm not sure how you happened to settle on him and Kent as my possible sock puppets. Almost seems like you put names in a hat and pulled out a couple at random. But whatever you'd like to believe is fine with me. Even if I don't understand your motivations.
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Ludd wrote:Almost seems like you put names in a hat and pulled out a couple at random.


Irony, right?
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Re: Masturbation OK for TBM's after marriage?

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Fiannan wrote:Perhaps the idea is that if one masturbates as a means to lower the desire to get into a relationship that is counterproductive to the establishment of families but after marriage it is no big deal.

I think this could be part of it. When we were still married, and when I would travel for my job, my ex encouraged me to "relieve the tension" as much as I wanted while I was gone so that I wouldn't be tempted to cheat. If I were away from home for a week or two, she'd arrange phone sex sessions at least twice a week while I was gone. So I think the motivation was at least partly what you're talking about, and partly because she'd get horny in my absence.

And yes, I think she went through three or four vibrators while we were married. It never bothered me at all, although I've heard that some men feel "threatened" by the idea of their wife using a vibrator during sex. I never understood that.
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Bazooka wrote:
Ludd wrote:Almost seems like you put names in a hat and pulled out a couple at random.


Irony, right?

Huh? Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
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With the constant barrage of talks about porn addiction from LDS leaders it appears that masturbation is the norm in Mormondom.

Unless Mormon men are weird; only viewing porn and never jerking off.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:14. Keep your bladder empty. Refrain from drinking large amounts of fluids before retiring.
Natural viagra right there.

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