Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo Essay Up!

[_DarkHelmet]

I think that phrase shows us just how disingenuous the Church is being and also how uncomfortable they are with this subject.
Helen Mar Kimball was 14 years old when she married Joseph Smith, several months before his 38th birthday.

We could play the church's games and describe it as "Joseph Smith, only a few dozen months from being in his mid 40s, married a girl who was only 9-years-old five years before the marriage."

[Guest]

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[_Maureen]

...Page 85 of The Church Handbook Of Instructions confirms that a woman needs a sealing cancellation from the FP before she can be sealed to a different man.

"A woman who has previously been sealed must receive a cancellation of that sealing from the First Presidency before she may be sealed to another man in her lifetime. A man who has been divorced from a woman who was sealed to him must receive a sealing clearance from the First Presidency before another woman may be sealed to him."

It also confirms a living man can be sealed to multiple wives on the basis that previous wives have died, but that a living woman can only be sealed to one man, even after that one man dies.

But the Church treats men and women as equals.....yeah, right.

I believe the CHI was updated in 2010. I have found this information but can't provide a link:

From CHI 1, 3.6.1 Sealing of Deceased Members

Deceased Men. A deceased man may have sealed to him all women to whom he was legally married during his life if they are deceased or if they are living and are not sealed to another man.

Deceased Women. A deceased woman may be sealed to all men to whom she was legally married during her life. However, if she was sealed to a husband during her life, all her husbands must be deceased before she may be sealed to a husband to whom she was not sealed during life. This includes former husbands from whom she was divorced.

M.

[_sock puppet]

...Page 85 of The Church Handbook Of Instructions confirms that a woman needs a sealing cancellation from the FP before she can be sealed to a different man.

"A woman who has previously been sealed must receive a cancellation of that sealing from the First Presidency before she may be sealed to another man in her lifetime. A man who has been divorced from a woman who was sealed to him must receive a sealing clearance from the First Presidency before another woman may be sealed to him."

It also confirms a living man can be sealed to multiple wives on the basis that previous wives have died, but that a living woman can only be sealed to one man, even after that one man dies.

But the Church treats men and women as equals.....yeah, right.

I believe the CHI was updated in 2010. I have found this information but can't provide a link:

From CHI 1, 3.6.1 Sealing of Deceased Members

Deceased Men. A deceased man may have sealed to him all women to whom he was legally married during his life if they are deceased or if they are living and are not sealed to another man.

Deceased Women. A deceased woman may be sealed to all men to whom she was legally married during her life. However, if she was sealed to a husband during her life, all her husbands must be deceased before she may be sealed to a husband to whom she was not sealed during life. This includes former husbands from whom she was divorced.

M.

And there is any rhyme or reason to any of these gyrational rules?

[_Jesse Pinkman]

The Church doesn't recognise you as an ex wife.

That's just because they don't know me very well. *cue maniacal laugh*

[_Maureen]

And there is any rhyme or reason to any of these gyrational rules?

I think so that any children that are part of these unions are sealed to an eternal family.

M.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

This is what it looks like when the Mormon church does a 180 on historical polygamy:

https://i.imgur.com/ZpB2sFh.webm

- Doc

[_ludwigm]

I think that phrase shows us just how disingenuous the Church is being and also how uncomfortable they are with this subject.
Helen Mar Kimball was 14 years old when she married Joseph Smith, several months before his 38th birthday.

We could play the church's games and describe it as "Joseph Smith, only a few dozen months from being in his mid 40s, married a girl who was only 9-years-old five years before the marriage."

Why should I associate again and again?

‘Ā’ishah bint Abī Bakr (b. 613/614 CE – d. 678 CE) (Arabic: عائشة‎ transliteration: ‘Ā’ishah, [ʕaːʔiʃa], also transcribed as A'ishah, Aisyah, Ayesha, A'isha, Aishat, Aishah, or Aisha) was one of Muhammad's wives. In Islamic writings, her name is thus often prefixed by the title "Mother of the Believers" (Arabic: أمّ المؤمنين umm al-mu'minīn), per the description of Muhammad's wives in the Quran.

The majority of traditional hadith sources state that Aisha was married to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham, when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina;