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mentalgymnast wrote:This is an example of the effects of not inoculating the members before the contagion spreads.

I always love it when believers refer to the truth as a contagious disease against which the members of their cult should be inoculated.

Tim wrote:This is a pretty amazing thread of how leadership in Honduras is reacting http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1429025

Story seems exaggerated. Most believers don't freak out that quickly, or at least they don't express it. They usually rationalize and justify it at first, giving the church every benefit of the doubt. Telling the son-in-law he may owe him an apology soon? I don't know. But then again, maybe this was marinating for several days or weeks prior to his arrival. Overall, if any leadership was freaking out, I would think it would be here in the U.S.

maklelan wrote:

Bazooka wrote:And yet, for all your blathering, the section is now doing what I said it should be doing,

It was doing it before you knew anything about the existence of the section.

It was doing it before you knew anything about it and you supposedly work there!

Bazooka wrote:whilst you on the other hand were busy making lame excuses for why it wasn't able to.

No, I was waiting on information regarding the project and was trying to explain what things might get in the way if it hadn't been started.

No, you were trying to find excuses for them, for why they hadn't done it and weren't going to do it because of more important matters that they were working on. You either had no inside information but we're trying to pretend you did, or you had the information and this section has now changed priorities very quickly in response to the uproar.

Bazooka wrote:I've been right every single time.

all right, I'm done being flagrantly lied to.

You go girl!
Tell them colleagues of yours to stop making you look a chump by feeding you misinformation.

Has anyone interviewed Hans Mattson and the Swedish doubters about their response?

Equality wrote:

mentalgymnast wrote:This is an example of the effects of not inoculating the members before the contagion spreads.

I always love it when believers refer to the truth as a contagious disease against which the members of their cult should be inoculated.

Or using their own noggins to figure out what the new information means. Very contagious. Very dangerous to the viability of an organization for which the first virtue is obedience.

suniluni2 wrote:

Tim wrote:This is a pretty amazing thread of how leadership in Honduras is reacting http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1429025

Story seems exaggerated. Most believers don't freak out that quickly, or at least they don't express it. They usually rationalize and justify it at first, giving the church every benefit of the doubt. Telling the son-in-law he may owe him an apology soon? I don't know. But then again, maybe this was marinating for several days or weeks prior to his arrival. Overall, if any leadership was freaking out, I would think it would be here in the U.S.

Tipping points are quick, and the erosion that follows fast. While there might be exaggeration in a particular account, given what we've seen with Tom Phillips and Steve Bloor, Mormon officials defecting, it would not surprise me that among thousands of bishops and SPs that some could already have been on the precipice and the JSJr promiscuity essay hitting the NY Times nudged them rather quickly over the edge.

suniluni2 wrote:

Tim wrote:This is a pretty amazing thread of how leadership in Honduras is reacting http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1429025

Story seems exaggerated. Most believers don't freak out that quickly, or at least they don't express it. They usually rationalize and justify it at first, giving the church every benefit of the doubt. Telling the son-in-law he may owe him an apology soon? I don't know. But then again, maybe this was marinating for several days or weeks prior to his arrival. Overall, if any leadership was freaking out, I would think it would be here in the U.S.

Mine was this fast. I came home and read a Facebook post from a friend on why they left the church. Is was essentially an 30 page summary of the issues and how it caused him to lose his faith. After reading it, I was done. That was a Saturday night. By Monday morning I had told my wife I didn't believe anymore.

A friend of mine had a similar experience when I told him about the second anointing. He went home and read up on it and couldn't believe there was additional temple ceremonies for the "good boys" club and said “F” that and he was done.

I think some people can smell the crap and run away as fast as possible.