Zadok wrote:All this debate about the origin of the universe is explained by the great cosmologist Isaac Asimov in his short story "The Last Question". Read this and you'll understand the beginning of the universe and the true nature of God. (LOL).
I am happy that here is at least another who reads - and like - Asimov.
"Answer" of Fredric Brown produced the answer in smaller size.
I don't know who did steal the idea from whom...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Calculus Crusader wrote:EA has farted out this response before but claiming that the universe is necessary is a very strong claim that does not appear to fit the data, especially in light of the fact that it is composed of all sorts of contingent things. Oh, and just in case:
I think you don't understand the work brute definition does in an argument.
People are not obliged to respond to bald assertions.
Unsurprising that you'd confuse a logical argument for bald assertion. After all, you do the reverse often enough.
Calculus Crusader wrote:EA has farted out this response before but claiming that the universe is necessary is a very strong claim that does not appear to fit the data, especially in light of the fact that it is composed of all sorts of contingent things. Oh, and just in case:
I think you don't understand the work brute definition does in an argument.
I do not think you understand the difference between God and the physical universe.
EAllusion wrote:Unsurprising that you'd confuse a logical argument for bald assertion. After all, you do the reverse often enough.
You did not make an argument; you merely asserted sans argumentation. This is an example of making an argument.
Caeli enarrant gloriam Dei
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Calculus Crusader wrote: ... I do not think you understand the difference between God and the physical universe. ...
One very obvious difference is that it is not normally found necessary to argue that the physical universe exists, since it obviously does.
God on the other hand ...
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
EAllusion wrote: So this rests on you not understanding the difference between the physical universe and the universe qua the aggregate of all things. Fantastic.
I understand that you are speaking out of your nethers and trying to pass it off as sophisticated discourse.
EAllusion wrote:I provided a shortform summary of Dr. Van In Wagen's argument. I'm sorry if you do not understand it.
You are free to post philosophical blurbs as much as you'd like but don't expect a response.
Caeli enarrant gloriam Dei
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EAllusion wrote: So this rests on you not understanding the difference between the physical universe and the universe qua the aggregate of all things. Fantastic.
I understand that you are speaking out of your nethers and trying to pass it off as sophisticated discourse.
EAllusion wrote:I provided a shortform summary of Dr. Van In Wagen's argument. I'm sorry if you do not understand it.
You are free to post philosophical blurbs as much as you'd like but don't expect a response.
Given the credibility and reputation that EA has built up here over the years on such issues, as evidenced by his comments on this thread, I would say that you will need to put a lot more effort into your responses - unless you are okay with having someone else eat your lunch.
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
DrW wrote:Given the credibility and reputation that EA has built up here over the years on such issues, as evidenced by his comments on this thread, I would say that you will need to put a lot more effort into your responses - unless you are okay with having someone else eat your lunch.
Plus one, Doc!
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Plus one, Doc!