A call for respectful discussion of the LDS faith

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Re: A call for respectful discussion of the LDS faith

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sock puppet wrote:Hey, Wally, thanks for the chuckles. Until I read your OP, I had not heard any of those. Pretty damn funny.


Looks as though SP (eminent attorney that he is) may also be well versed in the intricacies of Poe's Law.
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Darth at it again?
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Great OP.

I agree that jokes like: What's the difference between a Mormon girl and a bowling ball? The bowling ball doesn't go to the bishop after you roll it. are extremely unhelpful to respectful dialogue.

Or one should never tell the joke about the terminal cancer patient who pleads with his doctor that he will try any treatment that might prolong his life. When the doctor suggests he marry a Mormon girl and move to Utah, the patient asks how that will help? The doctor informs him he will not really live any longer but it will seem like forever.

Playing into stereotypes like that are never good for open discussion and we should seek to avoid them like we would the bishop if we have alcohol on our breath.

Here's to a better environment for open discussion.
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Re: A call for respectful discussion of the LDS faith

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Fence Sitter wrote:Great OP.

I agree that jokes like: What's the difference between a Mormon girl and a bowling ball? The bowling ball doesn't go to the bishop after you roll it. are extremely unhelpful to respectful dialogue.

Or one should never tell the joke about the terminal cancer patient who pleads with his doctor that he will try any treatment that might prolong his life. When the doctor suggests he marry a Mormon girl and move to Utah, the patient asks how that will help? The doctor informs him he will not really live any longer but it will seem like forever.

Playing into stereotypes like that are never good for open discussion and we should seek to avoid them like we would the bishop if we have alcohol on our breath.

Here's to a better environment for open discussion.

:smile: :biggrin: :lol:

Well done, FS.

Those of us who live well outside the Moridor have little exposure to such insights as these.
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Wally Kessler wrote:But I would like to ask for some courtesy and respect in these discussions.


You have a handful of posts here. I agree we should be respectful when discussing issues, but I don't see any disrespect given to you or the church in the threads you have been in. Not that it doesn't happen, but do you have something specific in mind?
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Well Stated Elder Kessler

Certainly one should not inquire as to what is the difference between Marrying Horny Holy Joe and being a prostitute? A pimp only takes half your earnings whereas Horny Holy Joe takes it all plus 10 percent.

And it is entirely inappropriate to ask what is the difference between a sheep and a 14 year old girl to Horny Holy Joe? Sheep run faster than a 14 year old girl.

But totally unacceptable would be to say, what is the difference between Horny Holy Joe and the Prophet Warren Jeffs? Nothing.
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Fence Sitter wrote:Great OP.

I agree that jokes like: What's the difference between a Mormon girl and a bowling ball? The bowling ball doesn't go to the bishop after you roll it. are extremely unhelpful to respectful dialogue.

Or one should never tell the joke about the terminal cancer patient who pleads with his doctor that he will try any treatment that might prolong his life. When the doctor suggests he marry a Mormon girl and move to Utah, the patient asks how that will help? The doctor informs him he will not really live any longer but it will seem like forever.

Playing into stereotypes like that are never good for open discussion and we should seek to avoid them like we would the bishop if we have alcohol on our breath.

Here's to a better environment for open discussion.


True, but I suspect Wally is not the well read believer he is half pretending to be, but it is entertaining.
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DrW wrote:Respect is due to those individuals and organizations that earn it through their actions.


One of the reasons, I suppose, why Pres. Eyring is over in the Vatican today at the invitation of Pope Francis.

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mentalgymnast wrote:
DrW wrote:Respect is due to those individuals and organizations that earn it through their actions.


One of the reasons, I suppose, why Pres. Eyring is over in the Vatican today at the invitation of Pope Francis.

Regards,
MG


Exactly. When bureaucrats from paternalistic religious organizations gather to pat each other on the back for taking the right side in the culture wars, who can say other than this was based on merit?

I have always been impressed by the way the Lord has implemented a vigorous meritocracy to guide the church such that only the wisest and most learned men in philosophy, theology and social justice rise to the top. It has been said that whom the Lord calls, the Lord qualifies. I have a testimony that this is true.

I am also quite certain that given the explosive impact the Restoration has had on the world and has shaped religious thinking in all corners, Pope Francis could easily pick President Eyring out of a crowd.
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Re: A call for respectful discussion of the LDS faith

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mentalgymnast wrote:
DrW wrote:Respect is due to those individuals and organizations that earn it through their actions.


One of the reasons, I suppose, why Pres. Eyring is over in the Vatican today at the invitation of Pope Francis.

Regards,
MG


I'm sure the Lord guided Eyring there so he could learn from the head of the Great and Abominable Church, yea, even the Whore of Babylon. :lol:
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