DCP is absolutely not going to get drawn into Dehlin....

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Re: DCP is absolutely not going to get drawn into Dehlin....

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Chap wrote:What's going on here?


That's easy ... he's on sabbatical

In the business world we used to refer to it as a golden parachute
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Chap wrote:Answering myself, I should have remembered that the emails are in this post:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 47#p865447

DCP's email of June 14th included this:


Please note that I have not resigned as editor in chief of METI. I will not let you have that so easily. I founded it. It was entirely my idea. I brought it into the Institute. You'll have to explicitly fire me from that position in order to get rid of me altogether. And I won't take it lightly when you do.

I understand that some contract issues may be affected by my resignation as Director of Advancement. I trust that we can work those out in a civil manner. Pending my dismissal from METI, I will insist that I continue to be compensated as a director in my role, which I will now have more time for, as its editor in chief.


Chap wrote:When was it ever stated that he either resigned or was fired from METI? This is still there on the Maxwell Institute web site:


MIDDLE EASTERN TEXTS INITIATIVE
Founding Editor
Daniel C. Peterson

Director
D. Morgan Davis

Associate Editor
Muhammad Eissa


Chap wrote:It's even on his BYU web page:

http://asiane.byu.edu/directory/dcp6/

Biography: Daniel C. Peterson, a Professor of Arabic, currently serves as Editor-in-Chief and Director of the Middle Eastern Texts Initiative. He received his PhD from the University of California, Los Angeles in 1990 and his BA from Brigham Young University in 1977.


What's going on here?


I want to try and be as accurate as possible, based on his own statements, please see

The Middle Eastern Texts Initiative: A Retrospective and a Farewell, September 2013

"Last month, amidst the continuing aftereffects and fallout of the events that took place within the Maxwell Institute in the middle of June 2012, seeing literally no alternative and no way to function, I finally resigned as editor-in-chief of the Middle Eastern Texts Initiative. I hope the best for the future of the project, which I believe to be of enormous importance both in terms of scholarship and in terms of things far beyond mere scholarship."

See Also:

History page of METI
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Re: DCP is absolutely not going to get drawn into Dehlin....

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Chap wrote:Answering myself, I should have remembered that the emails are in this post:

viewtopic.php?p=865447#p865447

DCP's email of June 14th included this:


Please note that I have not resigned as editor in chief of METI. I will not let you have that so easily. I founded it. It was entirely my idea. I brought it into the Institute. You'll have to explicitly fire me from that position in order to get rid of me altogether. And I won't take it lightly when you do.

I understand that some contract issues may be affected by my resignation as Director of Advancement. I trust that we can work those out in a civil manner. Pending my dismissal from METI, I will insist that I continue to be compensated as a director in my role, which I will now have more time for, as its editor in chief.


MrSimpleton wrote:...

To try and be as accurate as possible, based on his own statements, please see

The Middle Eastern Texts Initiative: A Retrospective and a Farewell, September 2013

"Last month, amidst the continuing aftereffects and fallout of the events that took place within the Maxwell Institute in the middle of June 2012, seeing literally no alternative and no way to function, I finally resigned as editor-in-chief of the Middle Eastern Texts Initiative. I hope the best for the future of the project, which I believe to be of enormous importance both in terms of scholarship and in terms of things far beyond mere scholarship."

See Also:

History page of METI


Thanks for that! The last paragraphs of that blog read:

On the morning of 11 September 2001, I was preparing to head up to campus when my wife called to me. “You need to see this,” she said, and we watched together in horror as the first of the World Trade Center towers burned. I wondered at first if it were merely a horrific accident. (I’d often flown into New York City and marveled, during some approaches, at how close we were to the big buildings in Manhattan.) Then we saw the second plane hit the other tower, and we knew that this was no accident. I was immediately certain that this was a deliberate attack by al-Qa‘ida. (Simultaneous attacks, as in the earlier case of the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, were their signature style.)



My little attempt at bridge-building seemed pointless, small, futile. Overwhelmed by events. And then I heard a voice. Not an audible one, but very distinct nonetheless. “The project is more important now than it has ever been,” it said.



I believe that still.



Last month, amidst the continuing aftereffects and fallout of the events that took place within the Maxwell Institute in the middle of June 2012, seeing literally no alternative and no way to function, I finally resigned as editor-in-chief of the Middle Eastern Texts Initiative. I hope the best for the future of the project, which I believe to be of enormous importance both in terms of scholarship and in terms of things far beyond mere scholarship.



I still don't get why he would have resigned, given the importance of the project, and the fact that he was not fired - which he said originally was the only way he would go? Why take this destructive step?
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Chap, first, thanks for not being offended by my inadvertent error...I did not mean to suggest that you or anyone else is being intentionally inaccurate. I edited my post to indicate that I am "trying" to be as accurate as possible based on his own postings.

Back to the discussion, I am not sure why he would resign either, it seems apparent he regrets it. I imagine he was under much stress and discomfort and made a rash decision. Sometimes we act, believing there is an immediate necessity to act, only to realize later, that patience is a virtue and seeking serenity can provide clarity for judgment.
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I assume everyone on campus turned their backs on him, not being invited to meetings, not being involved in conversations, getting a cold shoulder all the way around.

Much like the OW sister that chose her brother over her cause, those on campus chose their careers over any association with Dan.

Dan was black listed.
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Re: DCP is absolutely not going to get drawn into Dehlin....

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Thanks, Mr Simpleton.

Unfortunately, I am in deep cover and intend to stay there for the foreseeable future (no, I do not work in the COB, and no, I am not married to a Mormon spouse). So I can't see a way of getting scholars in the field together to write to the Maxwell Institute to suggest to them that they try very hard to get DCP to come back on board, while also trying to get other people he is likely to respect to push him into doing the right thing.

But it needs doing.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:And now Mr. Peterson is officially a victim because someone took notice of his incessant need to not take notice of Mr. Dehlin. Surely, I mean surely, Mr. Peterson is on the cusp of some groundbreaking academics through his METI since he's been freed from his apologetic endeavors, and is working tirelessly to advance BYU's studies on ME text historicity!

I, for one, can't wait for the volumes of knowledge ready to spill forth any time now from this particular Professor of ME studies, and the Lead of the METI. BYU's academic reputation is at stake!

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Did he not also leave METI?


See here.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:See here.


Thanks for the reminder, Doctor.
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Oh, the Humanities! I stand corrected I suppose...

http://asiane.byu.edu/directory/dcp6/

Daniel C. Peterson
Arabic

Picture of Daniel C. Peterson
Contact Information

Office: 3087 JFSB

Phone: 422-8460

Email: daniel_peterson@byu.edu

Biography: Daniel C. Peterson, a Professor of Arabic, currently serves as Editor-in-Chief and Director of the Middle Eastern Texts Initiative. He received his PhD from the University of California, Los Angeles in 1990 and his BA from Brigham Young University in 1977.

Degrees: PhD, University of California, Los Angeles, 1990
BA, Brigham Young University, 1977


I suppose...

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Re: DCP is absolutely not going to get drawn into Dehlin....

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Well, in any case, the founding editor of METI has made real history in doing what he did. That person is Daniel C. Peterson. He deserves huge kudos for that.

I may completely disagree with his editorial style at the FROB, but METI was and remains an unqualified good. That is a wonderful legacy to leave.
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