DCP is absolutely not going to get drawn into Dehlin....

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Here is DCP's Deseret News profile:

http://www.deseretnews.com/author/22746/Daniel-Peterson.html

Daniel Peterson teaches Arabic studies, founded BYU's Middle Eastern Texts Initiative, directs mormonscholarstestify.org, chairs mormoninterpreter.com, blogs daily at patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson and speaks only for himself.
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Kishkumen wrote:Dr. Peterson controls his BYU profile. The person I contacted is the current director of METI.


Ah. Thanks. I have to wonder if Mr. Peterson is aware his public profile is claiming a professional status that simply isn't so... I wonder if there are ramifications for academics who are doing something akin to stolen valor?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Ah. Thanks. I have to wonder if Mr. Peterson is aware his public profile is claiming a professional status that simply isn't so... I wonder if there are ramifications for academics who are doing something akin to stolen valor?

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My faculty profile at my institution is also out of date. We don't have staff to make edits, so it becomes more difficult than you might think to keep it up to date.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Ah. Thanks. I have to wonder if Mr. Peterson is aware his public profile is claiming a professional status that simply isn't so... I wonder if there are ramifications for academics who are doing something akin to stolen valor?

- Doc


My faculty profile at my institution is also out of date. We don't have staff to make edits, so it becomes more difficult than you might think to keep it up to date.

As a parallel to the software development saying that "any non-trivial software program almost certainly contains defects", it might be said that any non-trivial document almost certainly contains defects.

[[Many years ago when I managed a software documentation group, I commented that the functional specs from which we derived our first draft documents were of "dubious currency" - inconsistently, and not dependably, updated. For years afterwards, when the subject of functional specs was brought up, there was a good chance that someone would mutter "dubious currency" under their breath.]]

Almost as soon as a non-trivial document is published it may, and probably will, start to "decay". The websites of many high-profile organizations are good examples.
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Kishkumen wrote:My faculty profile at my institution is also out of date. We don't have staff to make edits, so it becomes more difficult than you might think to keep it up to date.

This won't long be a problem at BYU. Next week, University directors are meeting with Utah State Corrections officials to set up an incarceration-updating team to keep these sorts of faculty pages current.
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Kishkumen wrote:Here is DCP's Deseret News profile:

http://www.deseretnews.com/author/22746/Daniel-Peterson.html

Daniel Peterson teaches Arabic studies, founded BYU's Middle Eastern Texts Initiative, directs mormonscholarstestify.org, chairs mormoninterpreter.com, blogs daily at patheos.com/blogs/danpeterson and speaks only for himself.


So the only thing he does professionally is teach Arabic studies, The rest is a list of his hobbies.
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Bazooka wrote:So the only thing he does professionally is teach Arabic studies, The rest is a list of his hobbies.


You know, Bazooka, I understand that DCP is unpopular, and that he has done a fair number of things many of us find objectionable, but really.

Is it necessary to pile on in this way? I personally find it unseemly.

Dr. Peterson is an accomplished person with a vast store of knowledge. He has written good things, and, frankly, his sheer rhetorical skills leave many people in the dust. He founded a series (METI) that is an invaluable resource.

We can disagree with some of his methods and some of his views, but I don't think it does anyone credit to minimize and misrepresent his work and accomplishments.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Bazooka wrote:So the only thing he does professionally is teach Arabic studies, The rest is a list of his hobbies.


You know, Bazooka, I understand that DCP is unpopular, and that he has done a fair number of things many of us find objectionable, but really.

Is it necessary to pile on in this way? I personally find it unseemly.

Dr. Peterson is an accomplished person with a vast store of knowledge. He has written good things, and, frankly, his sheer rhetorical skills leave many people in the dust. He founded a series (METI) that is an invaluable resource.

We can disagree with some of his methods and some of his views, but I don't think it does anyone credit to minimize and misrepresent his work and accomplishments.


In what way have I minimised or misrepresented Mormon Scholars Testify, Interpreter and his Patheos blog?
DCP is only being piled on in this way in this thread because he is piling on Dehlin after publicly stating that he had no intention of piling on Dehlin. Have you chastised Daniel for his piling on as quickly as you have sought to scold me? If not, why not?
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Bazooka wrote:In what way have I minimised or misrepresented Mormon Scholars Testify, Interpreter and his Pathos blog? DCP is only being piled on in this way in this thread because he is piling on Dehlin after publicly stating that he had no intention of piling on Dehlin. Have you chastised Daniel for his piling on as quickly as you have sought to scold me? If not, why not?

Yer such a [personal attack deleted]. Can't you see that the schizophrenic Kishkumen (who originally posted on this board as Kishkumen, the angry apostate, and then stopped and posted as "Jason" [if I use the real name, he'll ask, and successfully so, that my post be deleted], a friendly, testimony-bearing Mormon], whereupon he reverted to Kishkumen) needs to say nice things about Dr. Peterson to maintain his honest broker fakery. [sic: question mark omitted and all sorts of issues with brackets and parens.] Yer just the current foil.
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Yahoo Bot wrote:Yer such a [personal attack deleted]. Can't you see that the schizophrenic Kishkumen (who originally posted on this board as Kishkumen, the angry apostate, and then stopped and posted as "Jason" [if I use the real name, he'll ask, and successfully so, that my post be deleted], a friendly, testimony-bearing Mormon], whereupon he reverted to Kishkumen) needs to say nice things about Dr. Peterson to maintain his honest broker fakery. [sic: question mark omitted and all sorts of issues with brackets and parens.] Yer just the current foil.

Exhibit A for the black-and-white mentality of too many people. I can criticize some things a person does while yet recognizing the good about them.

And that is yet another of the many lessons I have offered on how not to be a tribal actor in conflicts.

You know, it's kinda like when Bot says how much he loved FARMS polemics and personal attacks but does not toe the party line on the story of Peterson's ouster.

You would think that Bot would know better.
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