Intelligent Life Out There?

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Re: Intelligent Life Out There?

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Chap wrote:
Amore wrote:... Also, it isn't easy to study - and most, including scientists, seem to like easy.


Hello Amore.

I am sure you must have studied ever such a lot of science to be able to say that studying science is easy.

Tell me, please, just to give me an example, what there is about the solution to an equation like this that has relevance to the tools scientists use to think about the behavior of electronic components subjected to periodic inputs:

3x^2 + 4x +2 = 0

(You see, it has to be something you can't just look up on Wikipedia).


I suppose my question was too elementary for a person like Amore, who thinks people do science because they 'like easy'.
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Chap wrote:
I suppose my question was too elementary for a person like Amore, who thinks people do science because they 'like easy'.


If you asked Nightlion he would probably tell you that people do science because they hate God. :lol:
"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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Re: Intelligent Life Out There?

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Chap wrote:
I suppose my question was too elementary for a person like Amore, who thinks people do science because they 'like easy'.


Yep. The science people have competitions every year to see who can do the easiest work and come up with the least helpful innovations.
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Re: Intelligent Life Out There?

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just me wrote:
Chap wrote:
I suppose my question was too elementary for a person like Amore, who thinks people do science because they 'like easy'.


Yep. The science people have competitions every year to see who can do the easiest work and come up with the least helpful innovations.


Exactly. The Nobel Prize for Non-Reproducible Results.

ETA: I think some guys in Utah won it one year for Cold Fusion.
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Re: Intelligent Life Out There?

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Gadianton,
Despite your lack of basic manners, I agree that the simplified explanation of higher dimensions doesn't follow from space to possibilities well. Still, at least they offered something.

Rather than just put down a theory about higher dimensions, please provide a better one.

Thanks.

P.S. The link you provided offered nothing but bashing the presented theory, as you did.
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Re: Intelligent Life Out There?

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Amore wrote:Gadianton,
Despite your lack of basic manners, I agree that the simplified explanation of higher dimensions doesn't follow from space to possibilities well. Still, at least they offered something.

Rather than just put down a theory about higher dimensions, please provide a better one.

Thanks.

P.S. The link you provided offered nothing but bashing the presented theory, as you did.


I think you'll find it almost impossible to have a civil conversation with most of the people here about a topic. In this thread you'll notice that many of the posters have resorted to personal attacks and have offered very little to nothing. It is indicative that most are Nihilists just by how they behave. They don't believe in anything, life is meaningless and they are bankrupt of ideas and a moral code of how to behave. All signs of a degenerate mind.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
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Re: Intelligent Life Out There?

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LOL! Good thing we have Tobin the Pure, who never insults anyone, to keep the conversation above board.
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Re: Intelligent Life Out There?

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Amore wrote:Gadianton,
Despite your lack of basic manners, I agree that the simplified explanation of higher dimensions doesn't follow from space to possibilities well. Still, at least they offered something.

Rather than just put down a theory about higher dimensions, please provide a better one.

Thanks.

P.S. The link you provided offered nothing but bashing the presented theory, as you did.


Will somebody with more patience than me explain to Amore what a complete waste of time it is to try to talk about an 'explanation of higher dimensions' at a level where once has to presume that people know b*****all about even basic college level math or physics?

And it is perfectly possible to say of a popular science video that it was really not very accurate, even misleading, without having the obligation to make another video that is any better. Making videos about science is not doing science. It's high-grade entertainment, nothing more.

Look, this is hard, hard stuff. Getting into discussions of it without having bothered to climb the steep and rocky slope of math and physics needed to begin meaningful talk on this topic is like going onto the football field without helmet or body armour. You'll just end up battered and dazed. And your score will be zero.
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: Intelligent Life Out There?

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just me wrote:LOL! Good thing we have Tobin the Pure, who never insults anyone, to keep the conversation above board.


We should all strive to be just like Tobin!
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Re: Intelligent Life Out There?

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Quasimodo wrote:
just me wrote:LOL! Good thing we have Tobin the Pure, who never insults anyone, to keep the conversation above board.


We should all strive to be just like Tobin!


I know! Here I am stuck being the Nihilist, when I really wanted to be the damned Pollyanna. :lol:
"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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