It's all subjective. If you've convinced yourself that taboos exist for some spiritual purpose then that's what you take away from it. It doesn't necessarily mean it's true for everyone. People can experience spiritual insights too even without the need to follow prohibitive rules.
M.
Yes. I agree. Sure, I suppose I could go to the Chinese Gardens and the tea house, AND NOT try a bunch of different teas. But why would I? It's not a sin to me.
I didn't bring up the WoW subject in this thread - that is where it evolved before I posted.
My main pointas related to this thread about "fun" was having to spend time, sometimes 3 to 6 hours at church on Sunday, rather than spending time with my wife and kids hiking and playing ball.
To me, that would be fun. Much more fun than spending my entire Sunday in meetings
Maureen. You were always nice to me. Still can't understand why you would defend LDS.net in any way.
by the way.... the above quote is the last post i made at LDS.net before i was banned for life.
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson
cwald wrote:Dravin is correct.... in my opinion, and experience.
For all I know, Dravin may be one of the douche bag moderators that banned me for life?
I don't recall specifically, but given the tendency towards consensus prior to bans I likely put my two cents in for it. If I hadn't I'd probably would recall the discussion over it. Unless it was one of the administrators acting unilaterally. With my current state of mind I would have dissented, but I even if I hadn't resigned as a mod previously I probably would have resigned when I resigned from the church. I doubt they'd want an exmormon moderator.
Maureen wrote:
cwald wrote:Maureen, why are you defending the douche bag moderators of LDS.net? What's in it for you?
They're not douche bag mods to me. The forum has specific rules, and since it is a pro-lds site, I am careful how I phrase things and ask questions. I am a longtime poster. I'm familiar with many of the other posters and not every post is about Mormonism, it's a diverse selection. There are also posters who are not orthodox, they are very articulate and I usually like what they have to say.
M.
I still putter around because of some of the posters I like as people. Like I said, there are fine people on the board and ultimately I don't begrudge them the right to run the board how they see fit in order to create the environment they desire.
moksha wrote:Ceeboo and I were both banned. Ceeboo certainly did not deserve it since he was always polite and courteous with to his fellow posters.
Dravin, weren't you the moderator who called attention to the picture I posted of Joseph with his head in the hat as coming from the Salamander Society, which lead to my first suspension? The irony of that picture being removed, was that the thread was about how the Church did not seek to hide the usage of the seer stone in the hat.
I honestly can't recall, there are very few moderator decisions I specifically remember since they tend to blend together.
moksha wrote:I am curious as to whether any of that sizable chunk of funding the Church provided the More Good Foundation ever made its way to the pockets of the lesser moderators.
The lessor moderators are unpaid, just a gaggle of volunteers. Pam works for the More Good Foundation in some capacity, I expect she's remunerated.
Dravin. I'm glad to see you were able to escape the cult. Good on you. I think you were one of the few normal folks on the boards. Here is another post a couple days before i was banned.
cwald22 Feb 2012
That is a good post Dravin. It just occurred to me, that it would take an average of 12 Near Beers to equal the alcohol content of one oregon beer. Okay - yeah, that would probably make any person on this planet deathly bloated and sick as a dog before they consumed enough alcohol to actually even get a buzz
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Dravin an exmo. OMG. Dravin, Were you a TBM in 2012 as a LDS.NET mod? What is your story?
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson
moksha wrote:Ceeboo and I were both banned. Ceeboo certainly did not deserve it since he was always polite and courteous with to his fellow posters.
Dravin, weren't you the moderator who called attention to the picture I posted of Joseph with his head in the hat as coming from the Salamander Society, which lead to my first suspension? The irony of that picture being removed, was that the thread was about how the Church did not seek to hide the usage of the seer stone in the hat.
I honestly can't recall, there are very few moderator decisions I specifically remember since they tend to blend together.
Not to worry, before I become completely senile I can help remember for the both of us.
Before lds.net changed forum setups, it used to have Laugh buttons, that was another reason I liked the site. There should be Laugh buttons here.
I've had a couple infractions at lds.net. One was for linking a Pure Mormonism article in a PM. I found out that PMs are not so private. I'm now careful what I say in a PM.
M.
I'd rather be a could-be if I cannot be an are; because a could-be is a maybe who - is reaching for a star. I'd rather be a has-been than a might-have-been, by far; for a might have-been has never been, but a has was once an are. - Milton Berle
Dravin wrote:With my current state of mind I would have dissented, but I even if I hadn't resigned as a mod previously I probably would have resigned when I resigned from the church. I doubt they'd want an exmormon moderator.
Hey you!
You resigned? Wowza! When did that happen, if you don't mind telling?
Elphaba
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
~~Walt Whitman
Dravin wrote:As far as the deference given to the orthodox posters, you kinda have two factors at play. First, by and large they agree with the arguments being made so there is a subconscious slack that tends to be given because the moderators secretly want to tell folks off but can't.
Makes sense. A real world analogy would be between the Veterans Hospitals and old soldiers. The old soldiers killed for their country and so the Veterans Hospitals earns its pay by caring for the old soldiers.
Bet those at LDS.net wish they had the decorated combat soldier Pahoran as one of their fusiliers. I understand he took out an entire nest of anti-mormons with just his bare teeth.