Triplets, then five months later twins...wait, what?

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Triplets, then five months later twins...wait, what?

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When Julie and David Grygla leave their St. George home, they prepare to be met with stares and questions. As the parents of 14-month-old triplet boys and 1-month-old twin girls, David and Julie understand that their family is unusual. But with all the attention they attract, it is hard not to feel like a "freak show," Julie says.

"That's how I feel whenever I go out in public," she told the Deseret News. "It's not great to have to be exposed to all the negative vibes every time you leave the house. But I agreed to do this (interview) because we just feel like we've been so blessed, and it's really our obligation to testify of the importance of families and the beauty of families and just that hard work and sacrifice is worth it."

After marrying and struggling with infertility for a year and a half, the Gryglas were surprised to learn that, through the help of artificial insemination, Julie was pregnant with triplets. But the real surprise came when the couple's triplets were 5 months old and Julie found out she was expecting twins.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8656 ... s-old.html

I'm slightly confused so let me summarise and ask you to check I have it right.

Couple have infertility problems.
Decide to go the artificial insemination route.
A.I. produces triplets.
He's back in the saddle within a few months of the birth of the triplets and suddenly his sperm now works.
All because God.

Have I got the key points down right?

From the previous article DN ran on the couple:
When the triplets were four months old, both Dave and Julie had separate experiences that led them to believe they weren’t meant to be done having children. They felt strongly that God was giving them a choice: They could either go ahead and have more children or they could wait — but if they waited, fertility would become an issue again.

Although the triplets came with the help of artificial insemination and after a year and a half of negative pregnancy tests, the twins came completely spontaneously and the first pregnancy test came back positive. Julie feels that the inspiration she received and the conscious decision that she and her husband made to follow that inspiration prepared them to receive the news.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8656 ... tml?pg=all

If you're an infertile Mormon couple does this article give you hope?
Or do you now feel you just aren't as faithful as this couple who seem to have gotten hold of your share of special spirits?
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There could be many reasons why the couple had infertility problems at first (infection, bad timing). It can happen the other way too with no infertility issues with the first pregnancy but have issues later on. The human body is complicated.

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Maureen wrote:There could be many reasons why the couple had infertility problems at first (infection, bad timing). It can happen the other way too with no infertility issues with the first pregnancy but have issues later on. The human body is complicated.

M.


Yep.

So, this article will give some couples hope and make others feel like crap. Everyone deals with fertility issues in their own way.
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After marrying and struggling with infertility for a year and a half, the Gryglas were surprised to learn that, through the help of artificial insemination, Julie was pregnant with triplets.

If she was undergoing artificial insemination--the entire point of which is to induce pregnancy--HOW IN THE HELL IS IT HUMANLY POSSIBLE to be surprised when it has precisely the effect you wanted?
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I have a question wrote:If you're an infertile Mormon couple does this article give you hope?
Or do you now feel you just aren't as faithful as this couple who seem to have gotten hold of your share of special spirits?

The article doesn't make much sense.

For what it's worth, I think A.I. is highly overrated, and adoption is highly underrated.
There are many orphans out there needing good homes.
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Puppy mill.
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Her is her Mormon elitism:
What else is this life about except family?

And we keep saying to each other, we’ll keep having as many children as Heavenly Father wants to send us, even if it’s difficult.


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Some back story....

How we met

So. There they were: Dave in St. George, Julie in American Fork. Dave was just doing his job as a doctor in his office, and Julie was pretending to do her job as a professor at BYU in her office, when Julie's oldest brother, Bruce, walked into Dave's clinic with some serious elbow pain. A conversation ensued. Mentions were made of singlehood, a sister (and her multi-level hotness), and the fact that she didn't live that far away, followed by some serious Facebook stalking. Dave was intrigued.
Bruce called Julie on his way out of the office. Mentions were made of singlehood, a doctor (and his multi-level hotness), and the fact that he would be in her neck of the woods that weekend. Oh, and could he give this doctor her phone number? Julie rolled her eyes internally, listened patiently, did some Facebook stalking of her own, and finally agreed to let Bruce give Dave her number. She figured he wouldn't call.
Surprise: He called that night.
Non-surprise: Julie didn't answer.
It took Julie a full day and serious consultation with old roommates to decide to even call him back. It was finally agreed that it was worth a free meal and a good story. She got both.
They met up at the Spanish Fork Airport for a lunch time airplane ride to Heber, some pretty delicious BBQ, and a fall foliage aerial tour. Dave did not crash the plane. Julie did not throw up in the plane. They talked for hours. They could have talked for hours more. All in all, the date was a great success.
Dave called every night after that. Julie became progressively unproductive at work. Two weeks of dating felt like two months. One month felt like six. So when Dave proposed after 2.5 months of dating, it only sent a minor shiver of panic through both Dave and Julie. By the time they get married, they will have known each other for five whole months. But in the math of their strange time warp, it's practically two years. Perfect.

http://bradshawandgrygla.ourwedding.com ... 4/26586555
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I wish them every happiness.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
After marrying and struggling with infertility for a year and a half, the Gryglas were surprised to learn that, through the help of artificial insemination, Julie was pregnant with triplets.

If she was undergoing artificial insemination--the entire point of which is to induce pregnancy--HOW IN THE HELL IS IT HUMANLY POSSIBLE to be surprised when it has precisely the effect you wanted?


Having been through the infertility thing, I can say that it is entirely possible to be undergoing procedures like IVF while believing that it won't work, just like every other thing that has been tried before.
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