Catholics beat Mormons again: Irish Same-Sex Marriage Vote

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Re: Catholics beat Mormons again: Irish Same-Sex Marriage Vo

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Because the vote went for same sex marriage, Deseret News is anxiously positioning it as 'Catholicism lost'.

DUBLIN — Barely a generation ago, Ireland outlawed homosexual acts and gays often faced a stark choice between leading secret lives or emigrating to more liberal lands. This week, in the world's first national referendum on the matter, the Irish could vote to legalize same-sex marriage.

The campaign ahead of Friday's constitutional referendum has featured searing testimonies designed to make the voters of this predominantly Roman Catholic nation look in the mirror. Members of many of Ireland's most prominent families have come out of the closet in hopes of challenging their neighbors' attitudes to homosexuality. The contest has pit the waning power of the Catholic Church against the secular-minded government of Prime Minister Enda Kenny.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7656 ... tml?pg=all
*plus other articles.

Had the vote gone the other way it would have been portrayed as a victory for Christianity.
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Re: Catholics beat Mormons again: Irish Same-Sex Marriage Vo

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I have a question wrote:Because the vote went for same sex marriage, Deseret News is anxiously positioning it as 'Catholicism lost'.

DUBLIN — Barely a generation ago, Ireland outlawed homosexual acts and gays often faced a stark choice between leading secret lives or emigrating to more liberal lands. This week, in the world's first national referendum on the matter, the Irish could vote to legalize same-sex marriage.

The campaign ahead of Friday's constitutional referendum has featured searing testimonies designed to make the voters of this predominantly Roman Catholic nation look in the mirror. Members of many of Ireland's most prominent families have come out of the closet in hopes of challenging their neighbors' attitudes to homosexuality. The contest has pit the waning power of the Catholic Church against the secular-minded government of Prime Minister Enda Kenny.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7656 ... tml?pg=all
*plus other articles.

Had the vote gone the other way it would have been portrayed as a victory for Christianity.

Holy crap (literally). Given the truth of the matter, this article is just disgusting.

Reading this one would think that the LDS Church was a paragon of social justice when it comes to marriage equality. Yet, in reality, nothing could be further from the truth. By and large, the Catholic Church will accept homosexuals as fully franchised members of society long before the Mormon Church ever will (if it ever will).
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Re: Catholics beat Mormons again: Irish Same-Sex Marriage Vo

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Years ago --- when I was active; I may say decades ago --- there was in my unit a young officer (lieutenant) who was gay.
As an older one (lt. col.) I had the opportunity to pick the deputy on duty... (24 hours once in a month, not a real burden).

Many times, I accepted him. (There was only ONE another guy who did the same)

Many times, I was asked: "you too?"
Then, I answered: "yes, we are comrades, and I am 100% hetero". We are companion-in-arms.

--- but, I never have sit to the same table in the canteen --- and this and that describes my standing point about SSM.
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