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Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:20 am
by _KevinSim
BartBurk wrote:There is always the possibility I could return to Mormonism. I don't think a lot of changes would entice me to come back as much as keeping most of it the way it is.
Glad to hear there's a possibility you could return, BartBurk. I would consider you my friend whether you do or don't (I generally consider myself friends with
everybody), but it would make me very happy if you did return.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:26 am
by _KevinSim
Markk wrote:But we can also discuss it and be friendly...there are many here that I disagree with, probably most everyone (lol) that I would love to buy a beer for, and I believe many would do the same for me.
Alas, I must point out that I
will never buy a beer for you, Markk, and I honestly hope you will never buy a beer for me!

I'd be glad to buy you a pitcher of root beer (and would accept a pitcher of root beer from you); does that count?
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:37 am
by _moksha
DrW wrote:
Another chapter in this excellent book discusses various creation myths that Dawkins has collected from all over the world. Some of them are much more inventive than that of Christianity.
The creation story of the Finnish Kalevala is pure poetry!
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:39 am
by _Themis
Markk wrote:Hey FS,
I am not really attacking science, but defending creation and intelligent design.
Are you a young earth creationist or an old earth creationist?
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:05 am
by _Markk
Themis wrote:Markk wrote:Hey FS,
I am not really attacking science, but defending creation and intelligent design.
Are you a young earth creationist or an old earth creationist?
I am a I'm not sure creationist...
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:12 am
by _Markk
KevinSim wrote:Markk wrote:But we can also discuss it and be friendly...there are many here that I disagree with, probably most everyone (lol) that I would love to buy a beer for, and I believe many would do the same for me.
Alas, I must point out that I
will never buy a beer for you, Markk, and I honestly hope you will never buy a beer for me!

I'd be glad to buy you a pitcher of root beer (and would accept a pitcher of root beer from you); does that count?
Yes, but things change? I actually don't drink very often...I had three and a half beers last week while fishing (getting skunked) down in Mexico...but that was the first beer I have had is over six months.
I like a good root beer myself. We have a old school A&W root beer restaurant a few miles away, they make a killer root beer freeze.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:25 am
by _KevinSim
Markk wrote:I am not really attacking science, but defending creation and intelligent design.
Okay, a very
long time ago Servant made a post about the existence of an omnipotent God making sense to him, and I replied by asking whether God's omnipotence included God's ability to cause a soul to cease to exist. Servant made no response to that post at all, and eventually stopped posting to this thread; Markk never replied to that post either, but at least he's still posting. Servant and/or Markk, can you tell me whether God's omnipotence includes God's ability to cause a soul to cease to exist?
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:25 am
by _Markk
Which theory?
Evolution by Natural Selection
Teleological Selection
Evolution by Symbiogenesis
Epigenetic Evolution
Multilevel Evolution
Biological Self-Organization
Structuralist / Platonic Evolution
Somatic Selection
Evolution by Natural Genetic Engineering
Evolutionary Developmental Biology (Evo-Devo)
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:43 am
by _Markk
KevinSim wrote:
Okay, a very long time ago Servant made a post about the existence of an omnipotent God making sense to him, and I replied by asking whether God's omnipotence included God's ability to cause a soul to cease to exist. Servant made no response to that post at all, and eventually stopped posting to this thread; Markk never replied to that post either, but at least he's still posting. Servant and/or Markk, can you tell me whether God's ominpotence includes God's ability to cause a soul to cease to exist?
Servant is a her, and shes pretty sharp, even if she wears her emotions on her shirt sleeve...I am sure she did not duck such a question...and I did respond...please go back and look?
God can do anything with his creation. He created us, He can un-create us. I am not sure I understand where you are going with that.
I assume you are looking at this in that LDS theology teaches all mankind are eternal intelligences, or gnolaum. That is not what the Bible teaches.
Re: The Old Guard Passes on to Judgment and the Mormons' Fut
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:44 am
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
We can just keep it simple. Evolution through natural selection. Pretty much the most documented scientific theory that exists. Not sure how you're shoehorning intelligent design into the process...
- Doc